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Now he's got six months to convert his enthusiastic supporters to, at least, Biden voters. Last time around he was sorely deficient in this area.
by asdf on Wed Apr 8th, 2020 at 05:45:30 PM EST
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I don't see how the Dems won't get a lot fewer than last time and Sander's ability to sheepdog his supporters back into the fold is also strongly diminished. Let's see if those moderate anti Trump Republicans really exist.
by generic on Wed Apr 8th, 2020 at 06:28:32 PM EST
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The US electorate has a much better understanding of what a Trump presidency entails now than they did in November, 2016. Rachael Bitcofer is predicting that Trump will lose and that the Democrats will start election night with more than 270 sure votes before the polls close. Hope she is right. She predicted a large turnout.

A poll now shows Biden beating Trump in Florida. If Trump loses Florida it is virtually game over/landslide for the Democrats. But, of course, with Biden as POTUS we cannot expect too much change, regardless of what the electorate wants.


"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Apr 8th, 2020 at 06:56:12 PM EST
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Honestly, I have to retract my earlier statement. Without the pandemic I would bet on a second Trump term without hesitation, but I don't think anyone can predict how this will turn out. As I wrote earlier, bungled catastrophes tend to work out OK for the incumbent in the good old USA and being a demented racist hasn't stopped anyone from getting a second term yet. So good news for Joe if he makes it. On the other hand, most of those catastrophes have been some mixture of fake and extremely localized and the only thing that didn't happen exclusively on the TV for most people, the Greta Recession, lead to a change of the guard.
by generic on Wed Apr 8th, 2020 at 07:14:12 PM EST
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Why is that Sanders' responsibility? Clinton didn't lift a finger (except the middle digit) to win over Sanders voters. If Biden can only offer being less insane than Trump he's not going to generate much enthusiasm.
by Andhakari on Wed Apr 8th, 2020 at 07:15:45 PM EST
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Bernie did what he could and Hillary and the DLC whiffed it.

Fact: not all Bernie supporters will vote for Biden.  That's just reality.  GOP knows this and will use it in a propaganda campaign to split off the more Left Wing/Progressive.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Wed Apr 8th, 2020 at 11:40:13 PM EST
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Never Biden. Republican in Dem clothing. and senile to boot!
by StillInTheWilderness on Sat Apr 11th, 2020 at 02:21:10 PM EST
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Seriously?

I still don´t understand why CLinton thought it was a good idea to make paid speeches to Wallstreet banks after the financial crash.

by Detlef (Detlef1961_at_yahoo_dot_de) on Sat Apr 11th, 2020 at 03:36:03 PM EST
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She wanted the money and didn't think her speeches would become public.


"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Apr 11th, 2020 at 04:06:07 PM EST
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I don't think there was anything damning in the content of those speeches. It was the fact that she got so much money for those platitudes that was the problem. You're suppose to deliver what Wall Street wants, and then get paid after leaving office, like Obama did. Clinton didn't seem to understand how corruption works.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Sat Apr 11th, 2020 at 04:09:02 PM EST
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