Russian war aims in Ukraine | 61 comments (61 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Russian war aims in Ukraine (none / 0)

If this is a false flag operation it should become clear in a day or so, as the article seems to be getting a lot of attention.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Apr 4th, 2022 at 09:02:07 PM EST
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Re: Russian war aims in Ukraine (4.00 / 2)

Absolutely not ... always interesting to find the first source and how this article is propagated after weeks of censoring Russian sources. Websites have been hacked from both sides ... have a post up today about debunking fake war propaganda.

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by Oui (Oui) on Mon Apr 4th, 2022 at 09:32:22 PM EST
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Please let us know if you find any information debunking the article which is more credible than the article itself.

_{It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue
- Queen Elizabeth II}

by eurogreen on Tue Apr 5th, 2022 at 05:50:12 AM EST
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Re: Russian war aims in Ukraine (4.00 / 2)

... in particular, hacking the official ria.ru site and keeping the article up for several hours would be a frankly impressive feat. Russian cyber skills are overrated perhaps?

I'm really eager to hear more about how this nasty piece of anti-Russian propaganda was planted. I'm sure you won't disappoint us.

_{It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue
- Queen Elizabeth II}

by eurogreen on Tue Apr 5th, 2022 at 06:07:01 AM EST
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I don't know that it's standard rhetoric out of Russia, but it's not at all rhetoric that's inconsistent with the standard.

(Their cyber skills are probably quite overrated though.)

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by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Wed Apr 6th, 2022 at 12:57:35 PM EST
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The murdered old guy on the bicycle in Bucha was looking at the Russians NATO-ly, so he had it coming.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Apr 5th, 2022 at 08:16:31 PM EST
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What Russian sources are being censored? You can watch the fucking Russian sources in real time over here.

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by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Apr 5th, 2022 at 08:22:32 PM EST
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Russian websites like RT are blocked in the EU. Can be circumvented by a VPN, but the block for ordinary users is very real.

Some videos on Youtube are also blocked if you don't use a VPN. I have noticed because Cat has linked some of these.

by fjallstrom on Wed Apr 6th, 2022 at 08:51:08 AM EST
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Ah, okay, fair enough.

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by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Wed Apr 6th, 2022 at 12:45:21 PM EST
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Intermittently blocked here in Italy. Here is the lead article right now.

China tells US how to help Ukraine
Washington should drop its sanctions-focused approach to Russia, Beijing says
The US is profiting from its campaign to impose anti-Russian sanctions, while even its close allies are suffering, Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian said during a briefing on Wednesday. The drive for anti-Russian sanctions should be dropped to resolve the Ukrainian crisis, he claimed.

For some reason the computer in my living room connects with no problem most of the time, while the one in my bedroom does not.

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Wed Apr 6th, 2022 at 01:25:57 PM EST
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Re: Russian war aims in Ukraine (4.00 / 2)

Perhaps your living room and bedroom are in different Italian regions, with differing cyber policies? (Italian politics is so complicated)

RT works for me (on my client's computer, behind all sorts of sophisticated firewalling designed, in particular, to keep the Russians out).

So, according to RT, China is toeing the Russian line : this is all about the "Great Powers" (Russia, China and the US), and this is not how we do business.

Europe is merely sideswiped in a passive-aggressive mention ("the US and its allies"), even though it's the EU doing the heavy boycotting.

_{It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue
- Queen Elizabeth II}

by eurogreen on Wed Apr 6th, 2022 at 02:01:06 PM EST
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link? (none / 0)

by Cat on Wed Apr 6th, 2022 at 03:51:01 PM EST
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Re: link? (none / 0)

gk's link

... I was just paraphrasing (or tl;dring if you prefer)

_{It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue
- Queen Elizabeth II}

by eurogreen on Wed Apr 6th, 2022 at 03:53:26 PM EST
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What's the point? It's on RT, so your government is probably protecting you from following it....

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Wed Apr 6th, 2022 at 07:39:32 PM EST
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Cat is a Yank, so she can follow it just fine.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Wed Apr 6th, 2022 at 10:51:38 PM EST
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The Russians and Chinese -- the Russians especially -- believe that Europe is a vassal state of ours for some reason.

This is why I say: What Putin is doing here is really about us. He thinks it's a Great Powers game, and it's not. This is his way of trying to fight us.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Wed Apr 6th, 2022 at 10:27:15 PM EST
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Exhibit A: Putin refusing to discuss with the EU at the beginning of the year. He only wanted Biden as an interlocutor, just like in Geneva last year.

by Bernard (bernard) on Thu Apr 7th, 2022 at 06:09:42 PM EST
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which "Exhibit A"? (none / 1)

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by Cat on Thu Apr 7th, 2022 at 07:58:46 PM EST
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