Beyond Sectarianism | 9 comments (9 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Beyond Sectarianism (4.00 / 2)

I tried to read some comments and followed some discussion ... it's hard for me ... reminds me of Dutch society some 70 years ago. Too much segregation and mostly talk about religion. What is Irish culture? It should be so much easier for the Irish to live together, apparently too little has been done at the grassroots level. The wall in Dublin still is closed every night? There is too little trust and this is expounded at the highest level of politicians in policy and presentation.

Was relating today about Yugoslavia and the troubles of ethnicity, split history on allegiance during the Nazi occupation and WWII. The brutal civil war and genocide was the result. Similar but on a smaller scale, that is what the civil war in Ukraine is about. A common history, yet not a common language and allegiance. Hellish result when war and hostilities break out which only worsens a bad situation.

Northern Ireland census 2011: religion and identity mapped

Is there no natural or geographic barrier that could move the Irish border further North. A mini-state of DUP'ers that could stay within the UK and the agricultural community of Catholic majority to unite with Ireland? A bit of bloody, brief civil war could settle a new border, no? ☹

As NI is not a sovereign nation, no article of the UN Charter would be violated.

PS Not at all a serous comment Frank ... I was taken aback by the posts t Slugger O'Toole.

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by Oui (Oui) on Tue Feb 21st, 2023 at 09:14:58 AM EST

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Nobody wants to re-partition Ireland. I don't know what wall in Dublin you are referring to!

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Thu Feb 23rd, 2023 at 07:25:59 PM EST
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Misspoke of course ... meant up North in Belfast ... excuse ...

My previous post about the Peace Wall in Belfast

NI: A Truce, Not Peace

What's In A Name?

Numerous other attempts to break down North Belfast's defensive architecture, however, have run into the sand. Despite residents on both sides agreeing to a peace gate in the metal barrier that divides Flax Street, road authorities have refused to introduce expensive traffic-calming measures.
Even though segregation is estimated to cost Stormont £1.5bn a year, most of the funding for such "community relations" work comes from international donors, who are in the process of pulling out of Northern Ireland.
"There is no momentum, there is no resources and the government haven't provided a vision of a united community. They haven't sold the benefits and opportunities" of taking down the peace walls."

Belfast finally breaking down the barriers -- in 2023 | The Canberra Times - 20 Aug 2022 |

[Many gates were shut due to the COVID-19 risks 😂 ]

Troubles: Too Late for Reconciliation

Dennis Hutchings: Ex-soldier on trial over Troubles shooting dies | BBC News - Oct. 19, 2021 |

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by Oui (Oui) on Thu Feb 23rd, 2023 at 09:03:37 PM EST
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There has been a disgraceful cover up of army actions and collusion with loyalist murder squads which has totally undermined the credibility of the UK government for many. No justice has been served and so they wounds remain raw. I am not a nationalist but I can't see a solution so long as N. Ireland continues to exist as a British enclave.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Thu Feb 23rd, 2023 at 11:23:39 PM EST
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Terror by New IRA? (none / 0)

Omagh police shooting: rallies to be held for John Caldwell [Source Belfast Live]

If true, utter madness 🥲

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by Oui (Oui) on Sat Feb 25th, 2023 at 09:26:38 PM EST
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Why? Even Sinn Fein would attend those rallies. No one wants to go back to sectarian shootings bar a tiny "New IRA" grouping.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Feb 28th, 2023 at 04:30:03 PM EST
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