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economist | Emmanuel Macron in his own words (02.05.24)
The Economist: Do you stand by what you said about possibly sending ground troops to Ukraine?
Emmanuel Macron: Absolutely. As I said, I'm not ruling anything out, because we are facing someone who is not ruling anything out. We have undoubtedly been too hesitant by defining the limits of our action to someone who no longer has any and who is the aggressor! Our capacity is to be credible, to continue to help, to give Ukraine the means to resist. But our credibility also depends on a capacity to deter by not giving full visibility as to what we will or will not do. Otherwise we weaken ourselves, which is the framework within which we have been operating until now. In fact, many countries said that in the weeks that followed that they understood our approach, that they agreed with our position and that this position was a good thing. I have a clear strategic objective: Russia cannot win in Ukraine. If Russia wins in Ukraine, there will be no security in Europe. Who can pretend that Russia will stop there? What security will there be for the other neighbouring countries, Moldova, Romania, Poland, Lithuania and the others? And behind that, what credibility for Europeans who would have spent billions, said that the survival of the continent was at stake and not have given themselves the means to stop Russia? So yes, we mustn't rule anything out because our objective is that Russia must never be able to win in Ukraine.
This interview is quite fervid and verbose, dramaturgy in effect, reminiscent of Macron's "shared ambitions" dissertation in Beijing. Which is great, because Xi Jinping's won't be the least exercised, when he arrives in Paris. Anglo-American-Franco synergies!
The Economist: You can interpret Biden's support for Ukraine as very much going along with his China policy. It's a way of dealing with possible problems in Europe. It's a lesson to China about Taiwan. It reassures allies in Asia, South Korea and Japan that America is willing to do these things. There's a confluence of interests in Europe and China. My question is whether that won't replay itself again and again?
Emmanuel Macron: You're right. The question may legitimately arise at some point for the Americans, if there were greater tension with China, and if the war lasted with a commitment, of the sustainability of their global effort. So I think that what you are saying is absolutely right and that it is being analysed by the American administration as you have just done, i.e. this support for Ukraine has strategic synergies for the Chinese agenda.
by Cat on Fri May 3rd, 2024 at 01:12:51 AM EST
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