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User page experiment and wiki poll

by Alexandra in WMass Sat Feb 25th, 2006 at 11:54:08 AM EST

I just found out this morning that someone started a new experiment on the ET wiki: a space where ET users can create their own user pages. So far there is only one participant but check it out, maybe you have ideas on how to use this new user page space. Here's the direct link: http://www.eurotribwiki.com/pmwiki.php/Main/ETCommunityMembers

Also if you are looking for information on the European Union the EU politics section of the wiki was greatly improved by Migeru. Overall the European Tribune wiki is growing thanks to everyone's contributions! I have a list of diaries I've read I hope to add to the wiki next week. For tips on how to make your own additions to ET's wiki: http://www.eurotribwiki.com/pmwiki.php/Main/Wiki-ETTechnicalTips

I've added a short poll to find out how much people use the ET wiki.


Poll
Have you used the ET wiki lately?
. Yes and I added material to it 52%
. Yes I used some of the wiki links 17%
. Yes I looked at it 11%
. No I don't have time 11%
. No I didn't know it existed 0%
. No I don't need it 5%
. Wiki who? 0%

Votes: 17
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I replied looked at it, but I have better intentions for the future, promise...
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Feb 25th, 2006 at 12:08:44 PM EST
I updated some of my diaries..sorry for the delay.

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Sat Feb 25th, 2006 at 02:00:54 PM EST
Further projects for inclusion inthe Wiki: German election coverage by jandsm, Saturday, dvx, PeWi and me (country politics section); Tour de France coverage by Jerome, me and some others (Sports section).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Feb 25th, 2006 at 02:09:09 PM EST
For got to tell: I updated the Films section.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Feb 25th, 2006 at 02:15:48 PM EST
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Hey - I didn't realise you were a regular film contributor!
by Alexandra in WMass (alexandra_wmass[a|t]yahoo[d|o|t]fr) on Sun Feb 26th, 2006 at 11:57:30 AM EST
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I'll be making additions during the week and will try to add some of the suggestions that came up in this diary and aren't in wiki by then.
by Alexandra in WMass (alexandra_wmass[a|t]yahoo[d|o|t]fr) on Sun Feb 26th, 2006 at 11:56:43 AM EST
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is this something else I have to learn how to use? I've only just managed embedded links ;-) Gawd knows I couldn't paste one of my own pics, because it is just too many clicks. I normally don't like to stray more than three clicks into anything...

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Feb 25th, 2006 at 02:10:56 PM EST
Nah, you just have to be aware of it as a resource... Eventually, though, the appalling quality of the existing content with compel you to hit the edit page link, and you'll go over to the dark side of ET.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Feb 25th, 2006 at 02:45:16 PM EST
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has its attractions.

My father, returning from India in 1946, had a book which he gave me when I was 10 - the Upanishads. At 15 I got the Tarot of the Bohemians. At 17 I got The Morning of the Magicians.

These have kind of coloured my reading ever since ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Feb 25th, 2006 at 05:07:15 PM EST
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I got http://urss.ru/cgi-bin/db.pl?lang=en&blang=en&page=Book&list=33&id=28375 by Landau and Rumer, when I was 10, volume 1 of the Feynman Lectures when I was 15, and wolumes 2 and 3 when I was 17...

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Feb 25th, 2006 at 05:17:15 PM EST
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Preview is my friend...
I got What is Relativity? at 10.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Feb 25th, 2006 at 05:18:10 PM EST
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I never quite understood it until I got into a the creation of a science museum exhibition a few years ago and HAD to do the reading. I'm glad I did.

Now my reading (and thinking) tends to gravitate (no pun intended) to theories that might connect some of these big themes together. It keeps coming back to the brain...

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Feb 25th, 2006 at 05:29:00 PM EST
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I got to Richard Feynman MUCH later in life ;-) Having first been turned on to Penrose - still a challenge for a peabrain like myself.

But could it be that early reading helps define which aisles of the library shelves we linger in?

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Feb 25th, 2006 at 05:24:46 PM EST
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I don't know, my section of the library shelf was carved out for me much earlier than that. My father dedicated the book to me with For Miguel on his 10th birthday because he wants to know physics, though I think he'll have to save it for later. I think an important early reading for me was Petete's Big Fat Book:

which was a sort of encyclopedia for children published in weekly instalments. Now, there is something here for a nature-nurture debate because my sister, being exposed to Petete in the same way and 2 1/2 years younger, went on to study Political Science. So, there is something else other than early readings shaping our later intellectual experience.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Feb 26th, 2006 at 03:43:23 AM EST
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A space for user pages exists by default, though I was initially not aware of it. If, when editing a page, you enter a name in the Author field, your edit will be signed in the Recent Changes page, and the signature there will be a hyperlink to Profiles/Name? (the question mark indicates it is a non-existent page - if you click on it you'll be able to edit the page. The first edit creates it.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Feb 25th, 2006 at 02:43:07 PM EST
Aie - sound complicated, altought still interesting, I like Sven's three click approach :-)
by Alexandra in WMass (alexandra_wmass[a|t]yahoo[d|o|t]fr) on Sun Feb 26th, 2006 at 12:07:00 PM EST
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I thought user pages will be useful for those not listing an e-mail address in the ET user information, as a way to be contacted by others. They also allow people to post drafts of wiki pages and diaries, as well as lists of projected diaries, and also to request diaries on other people's pages.

Personally, I have trouble remembering every time that Colman (usually) tells me "write a diary about that", or that I myself think I should write a diary about something.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Feb 25th, 2006 at 03:15:11 PM EST
BTW, I have added some Economic And Social Data Sources, mainly statistics, in the "Tools for Action" section.

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Sat Feb 25th, 2006 at 03:15:53 PM EST
We won't change the world because we are the kinds of people who think that data sources are tools for action.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Feb 25th, 2006 at 03:32:27 PM EST
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Speaking of action, I've been away from teh internets for a week, did you prise any explanation out of Ritter as to what he thought we could do in the case of that reporter?
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Sat Feb 25th, 2006 at 03:41:20 PM EST
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I suggested that he tell the reporter to write on ET next time he shared a beer with him, and also a Brussels meet-up. Nothing.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Feb 25th, 2006 at 03:48:22 PM EST
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Contributing to change mindsets is action. After all, there was a diary called We shall fight them on the statistics...


"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Sat Feb 25th, 2006 at 03:44:21 PM EST
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Changing mindsets is the greatest action that one can take - as long as it is by reason, example and open debate. Mindsets have also been changed in the past by tyranny - by the restriction of debate and information.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Feb 25th, 2006 at 05:32:52 PM EST
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Follwing Thomas Kuhn, Edgar Morin and Gaston Bachelard, I think that before convincing people by reason, example and debate, you have to seduce them out of the old paradigm. So seduction is the key word...

But you're right, coercion is much faster...

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet

by Melanchthon on Sat Feb 25th, 2006 at 05:47:23 PM EST
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Thanks! Nice links ot have on hand.
by Alexandra in WMass (alexandra_wmass[a|t]yahoo[d|o|t]fr) on Sun Feb 26th, 2006 at 12:04:02 PM EST
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I've been adding any new diaries I've liked (most recent: Alexandra's Africa diary), and I'm working (slowly) on getting de Gondi's solid Italian politics stories up (if anyone wants to help with that, dive in...)

"Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia
by whataboutbob on Sun Feb 26th, 2006 at 07:55:20 AM EST
...and thanks Alexandra, for keeping this in front of our eyes, so we keep plugging away on it!!

"Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia
by whataboutbob on Sun Feb 26th, 2006 at 07:56:05 AM EST
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