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ESF live blogging -- Friday (Interpreter's diary continued)

by Barbara Fri May 5th, 2006 at 01:05:15 PM EST

Hello again. As I found out, there are about 500 interpreters here at this conference this year. That's supposedly more than any other organization has around the world, even more than in the UN. Apparently they are very interested in getting people from Eastern Europe, and current Babels coordinators are trying to recruit them to join and become coordinators for Eastern Europe. I'm tempted. But the level of disorganization is so high I'm not sure I want to risk getting beaten to a pulp by angry interpreters from all over the world. It's quite comical sometimes, actually. My Polish friend was interpreting in a gigantic hall yesterday that was supposed to have about seven languages. When the conference started, they found out there had covered only two. So she was left with no choice but to recruit people from the audience to help out. Imagine simultaneously interpreting for 300 people staring impatiently your way if you've never even seen an interpreting console, and have never attempted anything like that in your life. Lotsa fun and excitement, I tell you.

I do recognize this forum is run entirely because of the goodwill of others. Yet I cannot help and think it's an analogy to the socialism I know and grew up in... this forum, as an organism, is like a dinosaur: gigantic but not very "bright". Just take the examples of us interpreters. We get food vouchers, lodging and travel expenses paid, which works out to about 1,000 Euro per person or so. There are 500 interpreters, so that's 50.000 euro. And many of them will be interpreting maybe 2 hours in total out of a seven-day stay. Can you think of anything less efficient?

I have seen some impressive artwork today. Particularly the statue of Justitia, an obese Caucasian woman sitting on the shoulders of an emaciated black man. I need to go outside and write down what it actually said, because my rendering wouldn't be as eloquent. I will post it along with my photo when I get back to London. My picture collection has expanded a bit and I hope you will enjoy some of the images. I must say lots of creativity went into this event, and there are some really fun things to see and read.

I am wondering to what extend this conference preaches to the choir. Many thanks to Talos for his clarification of what the socialist symbols I described yesterday mean for the Greeks as opposed to the Czechs. I do think, however, that the people who need to hear what's being said here the most will never make it behind the gates of this venue. And I believe the front that ESF puts up is a bit too radical to attract the common folk. The people that stream down the old runway into the E and S and F halls have the word "anarchy" written all over them. Dreadlocks, scarves, rainbow belts, holey jeans, long beards, chicken-foot pins, you name it. Surely these people already know about Bush's crimes, about the fact Coca Cola is evil, about recycling, peak oil. I am afraid that those that don't are still outside.  

I better go and try to catch something while I can. Tomorrow I'm finally going to interpret, or so I hope, and justify my trip here.  


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Sounds wild...hang in there! (Getting to see Athens at all?)

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by whataboutbob on Fri May 5th, 2006 at 01:26:36 PM EST
I do think, however, that the people who need to hear what's being said here the most will never make it behind the gates of this venue. And I believe the front that ESF puts up is a bit too radical to attract the common folk. The people that stream down the old runway into the E and S and F halls have the word "anarchy" written all over them. Dreadlocks, scarves, rainbow belts, holey jeans, long beards, chicken-foot pins, you name it. Surely these people already know about Bush's crimes, about the fact Coca Cola is evil, about recycling, peak oil. I am afraid that those that don't are still outside.

This turning-into-closed-subculture aspect of many events spawned by the altermondialist movement bothers me, too. On the other hand, I thought the ESF is less about spreading the message to the people, but more about creating connections and feedback between activists. The exchanged cell phone numbers of say an Italian trade unionist and a Czech Green might count much more than any talks they listened to.

So, I'd like to ask: have you observed the 'mingling of the people', or do they break up?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri May 5th, 2006 at 02:21:01 PM EST
To me, the mingling among activists is not really obvious. Everyone kind of mingles around here, and it's hard to tell who is who and where people belong. Lots of folks are just sitting around by their booths in the main hall and I'm not sure how supportive they are of other people's agenda. There are a few petitions you can sign, so that's useful, I hope. I imagine people that have similar intentions find each other, but I haven't really seen it happen.

But surely the talks are the most important thing? Networking is definitely a great by-product, but it's the speeches and seminars everything is evolving around.

"If you cannot say what you have to say in twenty minutes, you should go away and write a book about it." Lord Brabazon

by Barbara on Fri May 5th, 2006 at 03:03:39 PM EST
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in my job, we go to conferences mostly for the networking - and once in a while we get the unexpected bonus of an actually interesting presentation.

That's where I find my clients, not where I learn about my business (it can be about learning if you are not familiar with the topic/ the country, but that's never going to be the majority of attendees - or it would be a flop for the others)

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri May 5th, 2006 at 04:29:50 PM EST
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Ohhh, I think we were unsensitive. After all, Barbara is there to interpret these speeches!

But to do away with the implacation that her job would be rendered unimportant, this networking develops around and on the basis of what is talked about. (At least this is how it worked at conferences I was at.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri May 5th, 2006 at 04:46:48 PM EST
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I didn't mean that the speeches were uninteresting - just that usually, if you know your business, you shouldn't be learning much. Conferences like this are useful to get a lot of basic information on a topic you don't know, but many conferences do not target that kind of public, and target a much more specialised public, which goes there more for the networking than the content (and who does the speech matters sometimes more thna what s/he talks about).

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat May 6th, 2006 at 07:44:17 AM EST
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Yet I cannot help and think it's an analogy to the socialism I know and grew up in... this forum, as an organism, is like a dinosaur: gigantic but not very "bright".

Well, from your description, there is one crucial difference: the 'socialism' we knew was a centralised top-down affair (with the top dogs lacking oversight and the local barons cheating), but the ESF dinosaur is a headless monster :-)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri May 5th, 2006 at 02:23:51 PM EST
Yes, a headless monster... hence a bit disoriented. But I believe it's going somewhere.

"If you cannot say what you have to say in twenty minutes, you should go away and write a book about it." Lord Brabazon
by Barbara on Fri May 5th, 2006 at 02:58:53 PM EST
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Perhaps. But 'A headless monster going somewhere' is possibly not going to be many people's first choice for an image of something that's attempting to transform international geopolitics.

(Unless it's a headless avocado, maybe.)

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri May 5th, 2006 at 05:40:36 PM EST
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enough with the avocado comments!

they are one of the most intelligent fruit/veggies on the planet.

their straddling of the fruit-veggie duality should be sign enough.

pick on potatoes if you must, but avos are right up there with artichokes and asparagus.

guac you!

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat May 6th, 2006 at 04:43:57 AM EST
Let's create the Guacamole Liberation Front!

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Sat May 6th, 2006 at 10:03:28 AM EST
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