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Swedish election thread

by A swedish kind of death Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 12:10:12 PM EST

Election day!
I figured I make a starter and then you can fill it in in the comments as results start to come in.

For background read someone's diary and the longish comments on this mornings open thread.

promoted from the diaries by poemless

(For those who read my comment in last nights open thread, I am only home eating, I will head back to the polling station later.)

In the last few days opinion polling has been intense, with a slight advantage for the right bloc.

Piratpartiet has had as most 1,5% (wednesdays polls), which we will beat by far (our young techsavvy voters does not have landline phones and even if they do they are seldom home). If we will beat 4% is uncertain. But I still got hope.

The voting closes at eight and then the exit polls are presented. I think SVT and TV4 makes seperate exit polls.

The votes are then counted (by hand, 30 000 something volonteers counts the votes) and reported throughout the night. To get a result done by the end of the night the election authorities only counts those parties they consider relevant, which they this year have decided only includes those parties presently in parliament. Tonights result is only preliminary and the final result is to be presented on wednesday. Votes that have been sent (postal voting is popular in Sweden) on time and arrives monday through wednesday are counted. There is no conceding or such in swedish elections.

If Piratpartiet (or any other party, presently not in parliament) scores high in the exit polls, the election authority will probably focus on presenting that parties final vote earlier then wednesday.

And to give you the chance to vote, here is a poll:

I think the result will be:
. Right bloc majority, the Pirate Party does not enter 20%
. Left bloc majority, the Pirate Party does not enter 0%
. Pirate Party enters, no majority per se 40%
. A swedish kind of presidency 40%
. Other 0%

Votes: 5
Results | Other Polls
Aargh, I am so nervous!

Must consume more alcohol!

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 01:16:02 PM EST
45 minutes to the first exit polls?

I'm looking forward to the live blogging of the vote count.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. — Euripides

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 01:20:11 PM EST
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Wow, looks like it's very close and oscillating.

Not good for alcohol level :)

by Laurent GUERBY on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 03:07:36 PM EST
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at 2495 av 5783 : 177-172 and 6.2%
by Laurent GUERBY on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 03:26:26 PM EST
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The smaller districts generally finish the vote counting first.

"ÖVR" means Other (Parties not currently in the Riksdag). I don't know about the Pirate Party, but exit polls puts the Sweden Party (xenophobes) at 1.9%, Feminist Initiative at 1%, and three other nonpirate parties sharing 1%.

by Omada on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 03:42:04 PM EST
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Other is down from 6.3% at 5.7%, exit polls where at 1.9+1+1=3.9%, so there's likely some spare votes :)
by Laurent GUERBY on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 03:51:36 PM EST
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Not enough to reach 4% though, unless the sneaky pirates lied to the pollsters.
by Omada on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 04:00:22 PM EST
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"Riksdagsvalkrets Skåne läns västra" has 10.5% other, do you know what's going on there?
by Laurent GUERBY on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 04:03:19 PM EST
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Not sure, but it looks like the Sweden Party is doing well in the local races. :(
by Omada on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 04:13:57 PM EST
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...in the local races in Skåne, I mean. They won't get into the Riksdag, and it doesn't look like they are getting a lot of votes in the local elections in most of the country.
by Omada on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 04:24:39 PM EST
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Go Pirates!!!

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire
by p------- on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 01:54:39 PM EST
Any site where estimates are reported?
by Laurent GUERBY on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 02:22:42 PM EST
Here (in Swedish)
by Omada on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 02:32:48 PM EST
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Looks like TV is reporting victory of the opposition here (but I'm not sure).

I note the 6+% for ÖVR, I assume it's counting the Pirate Party!

by Laurent GUERBY on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 02:44:42 PM EST
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Oops, the link above leads to the election result ("Distrikt räknade" = districts counted)

Valu, the state tv exit poll estimate is here.

by Omada on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 02:50:21 PM EST
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Can't find a trace of pirate party estimate...
by Laurent GUERBY on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 02:57:33 PM EST
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Hum at 789 av 5783 "counted" it's 174-175 and still 6.2% for ÖVR     
by Laurent GUERBY on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 03:03:38 PM EST
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at 1117 av 5783 175-174 and 6.3%
by Laurent GUERBY on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 03:09:30 PM EST
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You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 02:31:52 PM EST
already declaring win by Reinfeldt

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 04:31:14 PM EST
at 5481 av 5783 : 172-177 (46.5%-47.8%) and 5.7% other.
by Laurent GUERBY on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 04:37:20 PM EST
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PM has conceded. Reinfeldt next PM

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 05:37:15 PM EST

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 07:57:37 PM EST
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Didn't the just elected guy promise to increase taxes?

Swedish right looks like left of communist from France :).

by Laurent GUERBY on Mon Sep 18th, 2006 at 06:58:59 AM EST
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It is late.

I have drunken the rum.

I have toasted with a hardy Arrr!

So what did we the pirates get? Not 4% that is for sure. 2,5% and the government support that comes with that? 1% and free ballots in the next Riksdag-election? Who knows.

The 'Others' will be counted in the following days, but no matter what this piracy thing aint over, not as long as greedy corporations wants to own information and powerhungry governments wants to spy on their own citizens. We will work with political and technical means every step on the way. We will fight them in the elections, we will fight them on the internets, we will fight on the DC hubs and the darknets. We will never surrender!


(Now I will sleep. For a week or two.)

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by A swedish kind of death on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 08:08:23 PM EST
Arrr. Alas.

(What's "Alas" in Pirate? "Arrrlass"? Sounds like "Arr, lass!", which could be how you great your piratical female SO. Always a good idea. Perhaps I'll suggest Cornwall for our week out.)

Damn straight about the fighting back. Hmm, perhaps I will install TOR after all. (If we're paraphrasing Churchill: Never before have so many known so little about so much. IT being what I'm talking about.)

This feels like (as Chomsky might say) the other wing of the Business Party taking over for a while.

by Number 6 on Mon Sep 18th, 2006 at 06:14:36 AM EST
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From here:

Sverigedemokraterna    25335
Feministiskt initiativ    10505
Piratpartiet             6130

54765 being 5.43%, 6130 is 0.61%, are these final results?

Let's see what happens next!


Demokratiska partiet de nya svenskarna D.P.N.S    1
by Laurent GUERBY on Mon Sep 18th, 2006 at 05:40:44 PM EST
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No, everything is not counted yet. The methodology is that initially the votes of the 7 parties in parliament are counted and all other votes are counted as others. Because of this it is possible to get the parliament results within a few hours. But counting the others will take a few more days.

This far 1044 of 6177 districts have been counted.

To get how many percent this equals, check this page: http://www.theworldismine.net/

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid on Mon Sep 18th, 2006 at 05:57:50 PM EST
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Still counting, but nearly the first of the "small" parties!

Sverigedemokraterna     10704    0.287%
Feministiskt initiativ     28390    0.76%
Piratpartiet     24116    0.646%
SPI - Sveriges Pensionärers Intresseparti     18955    0.508%
Junilistan     16802    0.45%
by Laurent GUERBY on Tue Sep 19th, 2006 at 05:12:13 PM EST
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It seems the link I posted is not correct. It should be like this:

Sverigedemokraterna    2,93%

Feministiskt initiativ 0,68%

Piratpartiet 0,63%

SPI - Sveriges Pensionärers Intresseparti 0,52%

Junilistan 0,47%

Sjukvårdspartiet 0,21%

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Thu Sep 21st, 2006 at 04:29:36 AM EST
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Is there an official complete result somewhere?
by Laurent GUERBY on Thu Sep 21st, 2006 at 06:08:03 PM EST
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Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Mon Oct 2nd, 2006 at 06:49:39 PM EST
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Any Swedish speakers out there?  If so, would someone be kind enough to translate this:


As context, the group in question (the Exclusive brethren subsect of the Plymouth Brethren) have been intervening in elections in support of right wing parties around the world, usually by conducting anonymous smear campaigns.  They had a notable impact on the recent New Zealand election, where they spent over a million dollars in support of the right-wing National Party in an effort to bring about "Godly government". People down here are quite interested in seeing whether they've been working for the right in other countries as well...

by IdiotSavant on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 09:33:22 PM EST
Here's my quick an dirty translation of that article:

Extreme sect supports the alliance

Texts adjoining the pictures/illustrations:

The party leaders Fredrik Reinfeldt, Göran Hägglund, Maud Olofsson and Lars Leijonborg get assistance from the extreme Plymouth brothers. Spokesmen for the parties of the alliance denies knowing anything about the worldwide sect's million campaign.

One of the adverts the sect is behind

One of the sect's pamphlettes, which among other things claims that thousands of swedes die every year due to the cuts in care.

The company Nordas, which officially issues the swedish pr campaign, has its office in this house in a dilapidated industrial area in Liverpool. The building seems abandoned.

The founder don't want to talk.
Jens Kärrman of Aftonbladet makes a house call at Maxwell Kevin Houghton's, at his mansion in one of the most luxurious areas of Liverpool. Haughton is one of the founders of Nordas, a company belonging to the Plymouth brothers sect, which is behind the campaign for the alliance in the swedish general election.

Text of article:

Christian sect in heavy PR campaign for the alliance
Extreme religious sect throws millions of crowns into swedish campaigning.
  Today Aftonbladet is able to reveil that the world wide conservative organisation The Plymout Brothers supports the alliance.
  One of the spokesmen for the sect, Maxwell Kevin Haughton, 33, confirms that he is involvedd in the swedish campaign,    
  -That is correct. But I can't tell you that much, he says.
  The last couple of weeks a company, calling itself "Nordas Sweden", has put down millions of crowns on advertising that urges voters to vote on the alliance,
  With statements like "thousanss of swedes die every year from neglects in care" and "24 percent of the Swedish people has been subjects to violence" the advertisers hope that Sweden will get a new government.

  Adverts and pamphlettes
  The campaign has had several venues:
   Advertising in newspapers such as Aftonbladet, Expressen, Göteborgs-Posten, Metro, Skånska Dagbladet och Norra Västerbotten.
   Pamphlettes delivered to homes in Stockholm, Uppsala, Falun, Boden, Bollnäs, Gävle, Umeå, Luleå, Sandviken, Hofors, Skellefteå, Ludvika och Ljusdal.
   Pamplettes disseminated on the streets in several places and on parked cars in Katrineholm, Kalmar och Lund.
  But the organisation behind the campaign has done everything in its power to erase its tracks:  
   The company Nordas Sverige isn't registered anywhere.
   The Postal Box the company gives as its adress in some of its adverts is fraudulent.
   The mysterious advertising has inspired Linus Hellman to, on his blog "I Hell-mans värld" ("In Hell-mans world"),  in the last ten days mounted a campaign calling for clues to whom are behind the "Nordas Sverige" campaign.
   Today Aftonbladet can reveil the truth:

  Talking to the advertising departments of newspapers representatives of the company have claimed they work for Nordas LTD, a company with head quarters in the UK, registerd in England as late as July 26 this year.
  The representatives of the company, in Sweden as well as in England, belongs to the world wide fundamentalist christian movement the Plymouth Brothers.
  Aftonbladet tracked down the brains behind the million crown campaign for the swedish general election to Liverpool.
  Nordas offices in Liverpool is located in a back-alley in the dilapidated industrial area known as Knowlsley Industrial Park. Here we finally discover a little plate on a run-down building belonging to another company. The door of Nordas, as are every other entrance in building is shut closed and behind bars. It seems abandoned.
  One of Nordas' two founders, Maxwell Kevin Haughton, 33, is a man of few words when Aftonbladet calls at his door.
  Are your swedish representatives engaged in the Plymouth-movement?
  - Yes,, that's correct.
  And you are too?
  - Yes.
  Why does a Brittish company put a lot of money into a swedish electioneering campaign?
  - I don't know if I want to comment on that. I have to talk to a colleague first.
  - Can I have your number and someone will call you?
  At the deadline to print this edition no one had called.

"Doesn't know nothing"
  The alliance claims no knowledge of the sect's assistance in the campaign,
  - I've seen these adverts but know nothing about who's behind them, says for example Jöran Hägglund, the centre party's chief of secretariat.            

Other articles:
The Christian Democrats: We were approached, but turned the propsal down. The alliance estranged values of the Plymouth sect.
Women are subservient - all science is evil

by high5 (high5104@gmail.com) on Mon Sep 18th, 2006 at 05:44:31 AM EST
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Thanks a lot.  There's some questions here about the name they're using for the group - "Plymouth" as opposed to "Exclusive" Brethren.  The former is the generic term, but I'm wondering if there's any other articles which narrow it down, or draw a link to the campaigns conducted in the US, Australia and New Zealand...
by IdiotSavant on Mon Sep 18th, 2006 at 07:15:30 AM EST
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Found this at http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/subdivisions/exclusivebrethren_2.shtml


The Brethren movement began in Dublin in the late 1820s with a group of men (John Nelson Darby, Anthony Norris Groves, John Bellet, Edward Cronin and Francis Hutchinson) who felt that the established Church had become too involved with the secular state and abandoned many of the basic truths of Christianity.

The first Brethren assembly in England was established at Plymouth in 1831 which is why Brethren are often called Plymouth Brethren.
John Nelson Darby

J.N. Darby ©

In the late 1840s the Brethren split into the Open Brethren and the Exclusive Brethren.

It's a rather long but informative text about the sect(s).

by high5 (high5104@gmail.com) on Mon Sep 18th, 2006 at 08:53:11 AM EST
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Also found this at http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/brethren-linked-to-howard-campaign/2005/09/15/1126750082584.html

Since Bruce Hales was made world leader in 2002 the traditionally apolitical Brethren have become involved in the re-election of conservative governments.

They reportedly spent $500,000 on a campaign to re-elect George Bush as US President and the same amount to run a campaign in New Zealand against Labour and the Green Party.

Now they've tried their tricks in Sweden. And, if they had some influence I don't know, but the results of the Swedish election was a landslide for the Moderate Party, one of the parties of the alliance.

I think it didn't hurt the party leader of that party, who's billed his party as "the new Moderates" was referred to as "Bill Clinton, oh, I'm sorry, Fredrik Reinfeldt" by a reporter at our TV4 the night before the election. Irony of ironies, his new Moderate Party has been running on an agenda very similar to "Compassionate Conservatism"...

by high5 (high5104@gmail.com) on Mon Sep 18th, 2006 at 09:33:47 AM EST
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How is coming second to the Social Democrats by a long shot, and the right-block having a 7-seat advantage over the left-block "a landslide"?

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. — Euripides
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Sep 18th, 2006 at 09:41:49 AM EST
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The terrain shifted a lot. The Moderates gained voters from practically every other party and only lost some to the extreme right.
by high5 (high5104@gmail.com) on Mon Sep 18th, 2006 at 10:23:23 AM EST
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Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. — Euripides
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Sep 18th, 2006 at 10:24:49 AM EST
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Its often very close in Sweden. 178-171 is a landslide here.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Mon Sep 18th, 2006 at 12:17:59 PM EST
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