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Will the French have antigravity technology?

by Lupin Sun Nov 18th, 2007 at 03:56:13 AM EST

This morning, my local rag, LA DEPECHE DU MIDI, had a frontpage article about that international conference in Washington where a panel of two dozen former pilots and government officials called on the U.S. government to reopen its UFO investigations. (MSNBC link)

A sidebar is an interview with Claude Poher, identified as an astrophysicist, engineer in space research & electronics, and former director of GEPAN, a French UFO investigating group.

Mr Power said:

Et par la conclusion expérimentale sur les «universons» que j'ai menée en laboratoire... avec trente ans d'avance ! Les Américains en sont restés « babas». Il s'agit d'un système - breveté - capable de créer un champ gravitationnel très puissant.

DDD : Quel est son but ?

C.P. : C'est un nouveau mode de propulsion aux applications potentielles gigantesques, en matière de santé notamment. Ce propulseur, minuscule de taille, et qui pèse 20 grammes, peut soulever une tonne et demi. Et produire de l'électricité directement à partir des particules gravitationnelles.

Link to La Depeche du Midi article

Naturally, I am a bit curious about all this and I did some googling on Mr. Power and "Universons" and here is what I found:

Mr. Poher's video press release on UTube

An interesting discussion (in French) on Yahoo.

It turns out that there's quite a few more sites/pages (both in French and in English) discussing Mr. Poher's "universons" theories on the web.

I know nothing about science but I do watch Discovery, keep up with books/documentaries by/about Stephen Hawking, Michio Kaku, etc. and I'd never heard of this before.

So, is this a total crank thing, or are the French about to make some kind of technological breakthrough?

Morning, Lupin!

Well now, IANAPhysicist, but those "gravitional particles" sound funny-peculiar to me. And M Poher goes on (in response to a question from La Dépêche) to say that "evidently" aliens use his system, which explains why they disappear so fast.

I hope M Poher doesn't disappear into the interstellar void as Scotty beams him up, because we need astrophysicists of his ilk to keep us chuckling.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Nov 18th, 2007 at 04:42:55 AM EST
In a word, No.

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by technopolitical on Sun Nov 18th, 2007 at 04:51:51 AM EST
Sure, we do. It's the same as the one used by Will.E.Coyotte to keep running a good 100 ft past the canyon edge...
by Bernard (bernard) on Sun Nov 18th, 2007 at 05:17:12 AM EST
While the consensus seems to be that it is a crank thing, I'm interested to note that on Kos, the possibility of the French making a scientific breakthrough is at least considered possible, while here, it is dismissed like a cartoony "Pigs in Space" eventuality.


by Lupin on Sun Nov 18th, 2007 at 06:11:05 AM EST
It's not about being French.

There's a cottage industry of cranks making extraordinary claims, and they're almost always wrong. Anti-gravity is near the top of the crank list, so any realistic claim has to be rock solid if it's going to be taken seriously.

A video with some Mozart playing in the background and some nice tourist photos is very much less convincing than a properly written paper explaining exactly what's supposed to be happening and - ideally - how to replicate it.

It's hard enough for full time scientists to get anti-g research taken seriously, so an outsider has no chance without a very much more solid showing.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sun Nov 18th, 2007 at 06:32:30 AM EST
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Eric Laithwaite is always used as the prime example.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Nov 18th, 2007 at 10:49:24 AM EST
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What about Townsend-Brwon ?

His stuff is oftencited as being influential. I noted that an awful lot of workusing his ideas was posted when I looked around 2001, but by 2003 a load of them were deleted.

Apparently the research is now corporate and not subject to exposure.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Nov 19th, 2007 at 06:19:26 AM EST
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I too find it helpful in noting over time what "vanishes" from the internet.  
Soon it's going to be a collection of the vacuous airheadedness of AOL and of course totally useless.
by Lasthorseman on Mon Nov 19th, 2007 at 06:19:58 PM EST
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Do you have a more technical/explicit reference?

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 05:37:45 PM EST
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