Wed Dec 3rd, 2008 at 08:01:54 PM EST
Along with logic and dialectic, rhetoric is one of the three ancient arts of discourse. From ancient Greece to the late 19th Century, it was a central part of Western education, filling the need to train public speakers and writers to move audiences to action with arguments.  The very act of defining has itself been a central part of rhetoric: It appears among Aristotle's topoi, heuristics for rhetorical invention. For Aristotle, rhetoric is the art of practical wisdom and decision making, a counterpart to logic and a branch of politics.  The word is derived from the ancient Greek eiro, which means "I say." In its broadest sense, rhetoric concerns human discourse.
Do any of you know this card?
The happy chappie who has won the argument.
You win, they lose. They're dead, you survive. You continue, they don't. Them and You; Us and Them.
I'd like to ask you all: have you ever had a conversation where you had a position, and the other person had a position, and you came out with your position changed?
I'd compare it to the fresh mind that has no position, that searches for Truth and Tone....
....and finds the Tone and thinks it has found The Truth...
This fresh mind is influenced by rhetoric so, for me, rhetoric is the art of convincing the undecided...
Okay. But isn't there a higher or larger or deeper or wider or....another set of tones that don't demand you agree or disagree, that are self-critical?
A tone that seeks to remove its own beam rather than focus on the beams (or motes) of the Other?