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Campeones Campeones

by kcurie Sun Jun 29th, 2008 at 05:33:20 PM EST

This will be a very brief diary......


Campeones, campeones oe oe oe oe...

Germany 0 - Spain 1

Campeones, campeones, oe oe oe oe..

Que viva España... la la la la ll la Que viva España!!!

Ay ay ay ay canta y no llores
porque cantando se alegran
cielito lindo
los corazones!!!!!

Welll.. happy day around here.... and congrats to the germans for getting into the finals... but

Sena es el mejor, Sena es el mejor.. sena es el mejor...

to the spanish and the spanish lovers community...

El dia 29 España campeon..
El dia 29 España campeon
la la lallla lal lalla la

Display:
is the Sick Man of Europe, obviously (again).

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Jun 29th, 2008 at 05:41:42 PM EST
Well.. germany needed it less than Spain.. the spanish political structure badly needed that win...

You will see pictures of barcelona supporters shouting in the streets all around Spain....

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Sun Jun 29th, 2008 at 05:45:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I think it was about a year ago that you suggested the way to unify Europe would be with a definitive soccer Euro-Team.

I still think that's an insanely great idea, and worth any number of bureau-blogs and clagged up non-treaties.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sun Jun 29th, 2008 at 07:57:01 PM EST
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Making the champions league something more like a league and euro-international team for the world cup will be better than any teatry.

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 05:53:28 AM EST
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The obvious measure is to start promoting the idea of a charity tournament:

AFC      
CAF
CONCACAF
CONMEBOL
OFC
UEFA

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 09:21:28 AM EST
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Oh, and I bet Aznar was green with envy when television showed Zapatero... (tho' the director was more inclined to give free campaign time to Merkel and Köhler...)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 02:44:08 PM EST
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Casillas es el mejor. What a presence.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 29th, 2008 at 05:43:19 PM EST
nah.. Sena es el mejor.. sena es el mejor...

je jejeje

Casilllas is a crack , here in barcelona we just love him... (girls more than boys since there are not many homosexuals yet)..

eh   Casillas is great... But Sena .. and probably behind Xavi were the best tonight... and do not forget Torres goal.

Ah.... and there is one person which is nicer than casillas, he is Iniesta according to all counts... and he also played rather well.

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Sun Jun 29th, 2008 at 05:48:52 PM EST
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Torres was amazing - he consistently outran the German defenders on long balls to the German box.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 29th, 2008 at 06:00:39 PM EST
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Yes..a bsolutely he was great..

he did not play at all in the previous games.. adn in the final he makes the  990 minutes of his life..

this is the difference between this generation adn the last.. we do not ahve any "complejo"... how could imagine.. playing your best in the final was an oximoron for Spain twenty years ago.. we ahve changed :)

Oh and rec rec.. this needs to be in the rec list!!!!

Campeones !!!

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Sun Jun 29th, 2008 at 06:03:41 PM EST
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With Villa not playing le tenía ganas, and he had 4 crack midfielders feeding him balls.

That's 11 victories in a row and 22 games undefeated...

Now the bar will be quite high in South Africa 2010. Del Bosque will do well to maintain the style...

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 29th, 2008 at 06:07:23 PM EST
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Absolutely.. it will be difficult.. to keep it.. but the players are good people .. that goes a long way like in basket..

it is really amazing how team spirit is one of the most imortant things in these kind of tournament when Spain is considered... you can know if they are going to win or lose (or rach the finals) just by knowing in advance how the peeple get along with each other..

I wonder if it is a spanish stuff or it is more general...

A pleasutre

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Sun Jun 29th, 2008 at 06:09:33 PM EST
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Nah, Senna was the best! Really.
by findmeaDoorIntoSummer on Sun Jun 29th, 2008 at 07:26:54 PM EST
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Perhaps it's that Brazilian touch, but it was a sheer pleasure to watch when Senna was playing. Magic. Ramos comes second for me - always enjoy watching sharp defending: that used to be my favourite position in football. Additionally, the attacking style of the Spanish team operating as a unit was just as beautiful to behold.
by Nomad on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 08:31:18 AM EST
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I sad that Xavi came in a second close after Sena... and the tournament gave the honor to Xavi and not Sena becasue xavi represented him and the other two midfilders Cesc and Iniesta style.... :)

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 09:42:56 AM EST
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You have to understand I'm partial to goalies, preferring to play as one myself...

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 29th, 2008 at 06:34:18 PM EST
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Hmmm...that explains a lot...

ET's goalkeeper....?

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sun Jun 29th, 2008 at 06:59:18 PM EST
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What does it explain?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 02:38:10 AM EST
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The best goalkeeper has a name.. it's Iker.

oe oeoeooeoeeoeoe

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Sun Jun 29th, 2008 at 07:02:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Agreed, I think in this match, Senna was the best of the Spanish team. (Against Russia: Fabregas, against Italy: Casillas with honorary mention for David Silva).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 02:37:05 PM EST
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Now, as an American currently in Valencia, I'm going to have to do the requisite comment about how maravilla Villa is.  Seriously, he didn't even play the last two games but we still chanted about him last night.
by Justin S on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 04:17:51 PM EST
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Congratulations!

Yes... Had Portugal had a Sena and a Casillas, and we would probably have had a Iberian Final...

by Torres on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 11:23:03 AM EST
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Torres, is that you? Great goal last night! :-P

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 11:25:38 AM EST
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Love it. Spanish I can read!

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 10:52:11 PM EST
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And now... for the serious note...

At long last.. Spain realizes that it has two things in common.. first using obscene religious language continuosly and second football...

And the left-wing rescued the spanish football team. the center-left media empire seized the spanish team into a new imaginarium (they had the retransnmission rights)... I have been listening to the left-wing radio station recalling how Spain can be together  by football and how people from Asutrias, madrid poor neighbors, catalans ,andalutians play together and play the best...

Plus.. the team is absoutely nice.. there are players from all political tendencies and from all parts of Spain..and they are extremelly nice people.. they really are good people.. there are no egos as in the past.. there are no internal rifts... I am a barça fan and I thin the goalkeeper froM madrid is one of the best-serious guy I have ever seen in TV

it is really so nice... you can be a republican (as me) and feel proud of your selection.. and you can be a right-wing nut and shout a catalan name Cesc which is extrmelly difficult to pronunciate if you are not catalan...

As I have always said.. these narratives are much more powerful than anything you can imagine...Spain is going to be federal if a new financing structure agreement is reached...adn there is a huge cahnge it will happen and at long last without right-wing noise  pushing the idea of madrid-city and castilla against the rest of Spain.

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Sun Jun 29th, 2008 at 05:43:46 PM EST
Oh..and the few germans in our pub were graciosuly defeated by noise...

I am very proud of the spanish supporters in my pub.. I knew some them.. they looked like crazy.. but they were actually mathematicians.. nobody could ahve guessed.. and I am sure nobody would believe it if i would try to explain it.

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Sun Jun 29th, 2008 at 06:11:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Germany Mourns Deserved Defeat: Spain Crowned Champions of Europe - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News

Spain has been partying through the night after its football team won its first major title in 44 years by beating Germany 1-0 in the European Championship final on Sunday. German commentators admit the victory was thoroughly deserved.

Spain is basking in football glory after winning the European Championship on Sunday with a deserved and easy 1-0 victory over Germany in which they again displayed the speed, tactics and world-class skills that had made them the favorites.

 It was Spain's first major title in 44 years -- they last won the European Championship in 1964 -- and the victory ended decades of disappointment that saw promising Spanish sides falter in international tournaments.

The 1-0 score in Sunday's final didn't reflect Spain's dominance. The young, highly talented team forged by veteran coach Luis Aragones outclassed a tired-looking German side devoid of ideas in attack and incapable of mustering a convincing defense.

by Fran on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 05:52:30 AM EST
I am amazed how the german media is so nice .. generally, and the supporters too.. but the team seems always to get nasty when they lose.... :)

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 05:54:56 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Congratulations, my Spanish friends!

It was storming all afternoon yesterday so I ended up at home watching the game.  A few items of note:

It was aired live on one of the national American TV networks.  wow.
That opening ceremony thing confirmed my theory that one of the defining characteristics of Europe is unnecessary silliness.
A rude Nascar fan relative called me.  I told them to switch on the soccer game.  Their exact words were, "Them people don't look right."  Oh god help us all....


"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 10:57:42 AM EST
I request transaltion of teh Nascar friends meaning intentions....he was taling about soccer.. or about the initial silliness?

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 11:02:59 AM EST
[ Parent ]
He was talking about the players...

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 11:43:10 AM EST
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That opening ceremony thing confirmed my theory that one of the defining characteristics of Europe is unnecessary silliness.

Whatddaya mean? (I only saw it from the middle of the German anthem)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 02:42:11 PM EST
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It was this weird thing where they had people inside cones of balloons moving around simulating the tournament.  First they did pool play and then the brackets.  As teams lost, the balloons were released from the cone dealies.  It really was quite odd.
by Justin S on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 04:14:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]
NOW I am curious... hope I can find something on YoTube.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 04:18:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Really weird... and all those female Mozarts symbolizing both the hosts and referees... my head is spinning.



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 04:24:08 PM EST
[ Parent ]
That is seriously strange.
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 05:19:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The last opening/closing ceremony I enjoyed were the ones in the Barcelona olympics...

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 05:40:48 PM EST
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I believe they were attempting a Viennese Waltz.  

I can't find a video, but here's a pic

Then some pop star was singing.

It was all very weird.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 04:29:34 PM EST
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Then some pop star was singing.

<Checks> Don't tell me you don't know Enrique Iglesias!

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 05:08:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Why, what'll happen if I tell you I don't know Enrique Iglesias?

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 05:17:51 PM EST
[ Parent ]
This shows that you are an intelligent person.
by PerCLupi on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 05:31:31 PM EST
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I won't believe you :-)

Come on, Bailamos? Rhythm Divine? The youngest mariachi in Once Upon A Time In Mexico?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 05:51:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I'm sorry, I really don't!  Though if Julio Iglesias is his father, I have heard of his father.

It's not that I am above enjoying bad Europop, mind you.  I love bad Europop.  (See: Ace of Base reference below.)

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 05:54:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Enrique Iglesias is not Europop - he's from Miami.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:00:51 PM EST
[ Parent ]
David Hasselhoff is Europop, and he's from Baltimore....
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:03:26 PM EST
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Just because he's popular in Germany he's Europop?

What is Europop, crap American pop for Eurotrash?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:04:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Europop.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:07:34 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I have no idea what ABBA, Roxette, Spice Girls, Ace of Base and Enrique Iglesias have to do with each other. But the "term usage" section of that article indicates that the term is actually meaningless.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:14:38 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Not to speak of David Hasselhof.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:28:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]
No, do NOT speak of Hasselhoff!

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:32:06 PM EST
[ Parent ]
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:52:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Oh my... don't talk about this either... And Migeru should definitely not see this...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 07:15:16 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Hora chanante== david...

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 at 05:15:41 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Well he must be "big in Europe" because you all know who he is, while I have never heard of him.  Not that I pay too close attention to anything here either...

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:05:38 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I think he was bigger in the US than Europe (minus Spain?), but maybe not a musical style you care about.

Oh, and you're definitely right, Hasselhoff's foray into music is Europop/trash, German version...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:09:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Look at his wiki page.  He seems to be confined to the Latin music niche within the US.  

He's hot in the UK, Australia, France, ... Bulgaria.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:15:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Miami, I'm telling you.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:17:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Bulgaria!  His fans are in Bulgaria!  

On a serious note, here in the middle of America, you don't hear Spanish language music unless you listen to the Spanish language stations & channels.  I generally do not.  I know of people like, say, Christina Aguilera, because the media is plastered with them.  The media -I swear- is not plastered with Enrique Iglesias.  

Miami hardly representative of America.  But there appears to be widespread knowledge of this guy throughout Europe.  

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:24:03 PM EST
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Well, we know about him because he has the connections to get himself plastered all over the media. Sort of like Paris Hilton.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:27:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I quoted Wikipedia and posted a video evidencing that he made the crossover into English.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:28:56 PM EST
[ Parent ]
We only know him because we know his fellow/rival American star... Ricky Martin :-)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:30:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]
He was a big pop star here for a few years at the beginning of the decade.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:35:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]
HA! So will you help us to shove him on you Americans? ;-)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:36:49 PM EST
[ Parent ]
This all started because you knew who he was and I did not.  

Now you're acting out to divert attention from the fact!

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:38:57 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Well, DoDo is the king of trivia around these parts.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:40:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Note my use of the word "was."

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:45:14 PM EST
[ Parent ]
And note that "at the begining of the decade" some of us were in too much complete freaking shock, followed by anger and outrage, to be paying much attention to pop stars.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:48:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]
But soon after...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:51:47 PM EST
[ Parent ]
What does that have to do with anything, DoDo?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:55:15 PM EST
[ Parent ]
There's always room for obscenity scandals in the US national attention span.  And I heard that Janet Jackson's breast hates us for our freedoms.
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 07:02:58 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Poor Enrique, nobody wants him.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:48:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Except the producers of European sporting events.

And possibly DoDo. ;)

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:52:47 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I only want him to go back to Chicago ...and you may want to include him in an Odds & Ends for his ex-wife :-)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 07:01:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]
On Friday June 27, 2008 Iglesias revealed to a British newspaper that he and Anna Kournikova were married last year but are now divorced and he is currently single.

What?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 07:05:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]
And that's nothing compared to what goes on in Malta.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 07:11:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Well, in Spain we can be forgiven for knowing who he is since we've had him showed down our throats since he decided he was going to be as famous as his dad.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:09:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]
You provoked it...

(E. I. and Whitney Houston)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:12:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]
<shudder>

DoDo, are you a fan?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:15:51 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Hell no, I'm just taking revenge on poemless! ;-)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:22:10 PM EST
[ Parent ]
What the hell did I do?  Commit the terrible offense of never having heard of your favorite recording artist?

</ducks, runs!>

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:25:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Acc'd to Wiki:

Enrique Miguel Iglesias Preysler, was born on May 8, 1975 in Madrid, Spain.

Iglesias also plays a role in world soccer as he produced and sang the official song for the UEFA European Championships of 2008 at the tournament's final, which was played between Spain and Germany.

He ends and begins with you, my European friends.  Don't try to disassociate yourselves.  

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:11:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]
But the musical part starts and ends in the Americas...

Enrique Iglesias - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Enrique Miguel Iglesias Preysler (born May 8, 1975) is a Spanish pop singer-songwriter. His career started in Mexico on Indie label Fonovisa who helped turn him into one of the most popular artists in Latin America and in the Latin market in the United States, selling more Spanish albums than any other artists in that period of time. Before the turn of the millennium he made a crossover into the mainstream English market and signed a unique multi-album deal with Universal Music for an unprecedented $48,000,000, with Universal Music Latino to release his Spanish albums and Interscope to release English albums, Enrique Iglesias has so far sold over 47 million albums worldwide.


*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:20:08 PM EST
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By the way, the first time I heard of him was when he beat Ricky Martin... in one of your top awards shows:

In 1998, Iglesias released his third album, Cosas del Amor (Things of Love)....

He won an American Music Award in the category of Favorite Latin Artist against Ricky Martin and Los Tigres del Norte.



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:27:51 PM EST
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At least I know who Ricky Martin is!  Livin la vida loca, skin the color of mocha...

Because they were always playing that in the laundromat!!!  oh, man...

DoDo, can I ask you to stop?  You are scaring me.  


"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:32:18 PM EST
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Damn, so I can't post my YouTube Enrique collection...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:41:26 PM EST
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Hey go to town.

I'll apologize to poor kcurie on your behalf.  I've obviously stirred something deep within your soul, something which you feel compelled to work out here in front of millions. ;-)

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:44:38 PM EST
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What is it with talentless Latino artists and football tournaments?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:34:15 PM EST
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"The Americas" and "America" are not interchageable terms.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:29:05 PM EST
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But, does now Latin America belong to us? :-)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:31:24 PM EST
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Why was he singing at the EURO 2008 finals?

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:34:23 PM EST
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The Euro Cup finals are quite a way down from the Olympic Games, you know...

Also, choosing someone from Miami avoids uncomfortable issues about choosing this or that European country over others...

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:37:54 PM EST
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With Spain in the finals...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:43:07 PM EST
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Nobody expected the Spanish Inquisition!

And he's from Miami for all intents and purposes.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:47:51 PM EST
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Which is "Spain in America" for all intents and purposes.


"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:49:56 PM EST
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There are also some southamericans.. I  wonder who has more money the spanish in there or the south americans in there.. I have never been sure.

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 at 05:16:44 AM EST
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By Spain you mean Cuba.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 at 04:09:17 PM EST
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Julio Iglesias is more America-based Latino-pop, I think (Migeru can correct me if I am wrong). He also had duets with several American R&B stars (but please please don't ask me to dig them up).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:07:12 PM EST
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I'm glad I missed it.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 05:38:10 PM EST
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Who is worse? Him or his father?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 05:44:12 PM EST
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Him. His father actually carved out a career for himself - Enrique is just his father's son.

Did you know Julio Iglesias used to be a goalie for Real Madrid but had to retire because of a car crash and that's how he went into singing?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 05:46:45 PM EST
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Enrique is just his father's son.

In Spain, I guess. I doubt more than 5% of his international fans are even old enough to know his father (and I feel old and Yugoslavian for knowing Julio).

Never heard about Julio Iglesias's career turn.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:07:20 PM EST
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Are you telling me poemless doesn't know Hulio?

<cringe>

</cringe>

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:12:43 PM EST
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My mom (gulp) was a fan.

She's dead now so don't say anything mean about her.  lol

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:16:47 PM EST
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Poemless, as we know, is always in the 5% of 5%-s :-)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:23:04 PM EST
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ETers are one-in-a-million characters.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 06:28:51 PM EST
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funny.. we were cracking a lot of jokes about precisely that.... well I mean him.

Who would have guessed.... that he would steal the show in ET.. ejej ejjjee

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 at 05:27:04 AM EST
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No I feel I need to clarify that I enjoyed the ceremonies - in a weird way.  This is going to sound embarassing, but it was all so ... foreign.  I couldn't look away from it.  Something about Austria always creeps me out anyway.  So that plus the juxtaposition of these testosterone-mad football fans and the waltzing balloons and refs in rouge and powered wigs, I was a bit mezmerized...  

I didn't watch the popstar.  

Anyway, next time I want to see legoland people doing the hopak and Ace of Base opening. :D

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 05:50:47 PM EST
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I'm not as much a sceptic of opening/closing ceremonies as Migeru - weird can be fun. I liked the first match opening ceremony (dancers holding and sometimes rotating cubes with different-coloured sides above their heads, stuff like that). And I remember I liked the Sydmey Olympics ceremonies most, but I can't recall a single detail now, except "SORRY" on the black T-shirts of Midnight Oil.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 05:57:58 PM EST
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In the Sierra de Guadarrama, near El Escorial, they say that last night, day 29, about 22:35, Philip II was seen outside his grave dancing a Schottische.
by PerCLupi on Mon Jun 30th, 2008 at 05:36:23 PM EST


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