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by paul spencer Sat Oct 31st, 2009 at 08:00:55 PM EST

Mirta and I are going to visit Europe again in April and May of 2010, and we were wondering if you might take in a couple of wayfarers for a night or two, here and there. It could be arranged by rental fee or as a home exchange - or as a visit exchange, too. I'll lay out the draft schedule below in case anyone is interested in some such arrangement.

The other hope is that we can meet any ETers for whom our route is convenient. Several of us have cursorily discussed getting together a seminar meeting - rather than a strictly social meet-up. Topics could include, for instance, local political organizing experiences, PTP schemes, or Grand Unified Theory (political Theory, that is). Got to start the new Comintern someplace, sometime. Why not May of 2010?


We are planning to visit Spain, Italy, Croatia, Italy again, France, England, and Scotland, repeat England in that order. We have our Spain itinerary fairly well set, as we'll visit Migeru, then a cousin of Mirta's in Zaragossa. We'd love to share a meal with kcurie in Barcelona, if possible.

In Italy we're going to Cinque Terre, then to Rome. We've tentatively chosen a hotel in Rome, but we'd like to visit with de Gondi and any others in the area. From there, we'll head over to melo's place for some good sunsets. Next we're going to stay a couple of days in Firenze.

We'll go straight to Zagreb from Florence; on to Split for two nights; north to Rijeka (Mirta's hometown) and Opatija; west to Pula, Brijuni, and Rovinj.

Back to Italy, staying at Lago di Garda and Milano, with day trips to towns where Mirta and her family lived at various times, such as Vicenza and Tortonna.

We plan to stay one night in L'isle Sur la Sorgue, but then we're ready for the piece de resistance - Lyon with Melanchthon. After that, we'll probably stay one night in Beaune on our way to Paris.

We have several folks to meet in Paris, including old Texas friends who are staying there for the month of May. My guess is that, wherever we go for our week in Paris, David and Sally will be with us - or we'll be with them. In any case we're all quiet, house-broken Texans - and francophiles - so not to fear.

We're going from Paris to London for one night, then off to East Anglia to visit a cousin of mine. Next is Scotland, where Chris Cook and I will - I hope - sample various Scotch Whiskeys and invent the one true coin of the realm - Caol Ila units. We're going to take one night in western Scotland, then work our way back down through London to Paris for our flight home.

I realize that it's rather early for folks to have firm plans for April and May, but, if you think that there are some possible connections, please let me know. Also, my e-mail address is easy to figure out under my signature link, if you want to contact me directly.

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Have you hedged your Euros, Paul?

Not sure if you need to hedge Sterling though.....

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by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sat Oct 31st, 2009 at 08:42:35 PM EST
It's going to be more expensive than we can probably afford, but what the hell. It's only dollars. Might as well use them while they have some value left.

paul spencer
by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Sun Nov 1st, 2009 at 10:50:27 AM EST
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looking forward to meet you in person, paul, and mirta too.

till spring!

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by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Nov 1st, 2009 at 01:21:08 AM EST
We're looking at approximately April 18 and 19. Let me know if there's any difficulty with those dates.

paul spencer
by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 at 11:55:29 AM EST
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i don't foresee any, just confirm with precision when you can, as it is a super busy period, and there will be a fair amount of traffic, i should imagine.
bon voyage

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 at 05:40:16 PM EST
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I've never previously heard of house-broken Texans.  But on the slim chance it may be true, would that be a direct effect of the onslaught of francophillia?

Look, i'm not a doctor, but there is no such thing as house-broken texans.

(does sound like a wonderful journey taking shape.  one never knows which ETers might be lurking in the neighborhood.)

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Sun Nov 1st, 2009 at 04:36:12 AM EST
In Madrid we have a long weekend for Easter as Good Thursday and Good Friday are off. In 2010 this weekend falls on April 1-4. I think this might be a good weekend for an extended ET meetup if that fits your travel schedule and I would expect most people around Europe to have at least the Friday off.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 1st, 2009 at 06:08:02 AM EST
I thought Spain was a Catholic country.... In Italy, Easter Monday is a public holiday, but Good Friday is not (though a lot of places are closed anyway).

As for the main diary, I could probably meet in Vicenza, Milano (less convenient) or on the south of Lago di Garda (public transport to Riva, let alone anywhere else on the lake, is a pain).

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Sun Nov 1st, 2009 at 08:35:40 AM EST
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At this point that looks to be around May 2 for us. If there are any good Mayday celebrations on the 1st, we could rearrange to participate.

paul spencer
by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Sun Nov 1st, 2009 at 10:53:42 AM EST
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It looks like I'll be around. No idea what's going on May 1 so far ahead.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 at 08:24:35 AM EST
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Eii.. I will not be iN barcelona.. with high probability... we all go away :)

I am not iN barcelona the first week of december.. otehr than that... Love to have a meal.. or two...

Unfortunately I do not have a room right now. But maybe I can arrange something depending on the month you visit Barcelona!!!

Take care.

A pleasure

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by kcurie on Sun Nov 1st, 2009 at 04:35:38 PM EST
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We will look forward to the pleasure of your company - and that of Amanda, as well - if possible. As you write - maybe two meals.

paul spencer
by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 at 11:57:24 AM EST
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I was planning to go to Barça somewhere in spring, might be able to attach a leg to Madrid, too.
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 at 11:02:39 AM EST
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I hope that we can all arrange convenient dates.

paul spencer
by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 at 11:58:06 AM EST
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Seriously, April 1-4.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 at 01:02:30 PM EST
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Make sure you take time to wander around Lyon, my guide is here.

I am unable to offer bed or board, but can offer a tutored beer tasting. Both Cambridge and Colchester Beer fests will be held in the back end of May. Or we can just do a tour of some of the more lovely pubs in London.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Nov 1st, 2009 at 07:55:41 AM EST
Cambridge beer fest sounds a good plan for an ET meetup

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by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Nov 1st, 2009 at 09:05:55 AM EST
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The difficulty is that Cambridge is now really only worth going to tuesday or wednesday now. thursday and friday evening are sardine time and on the saturday there's very little beer left and so serving times are ridiculous. also huge queues unless you're a CAMRA member.

A pub crawl of Cambridge would be fun on any saturday, but the beer fest on a saturday would be a nuisance.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Nov 1st, 2009 at 09:46:10 AM EST
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whether large-scale or small. Current plan is to be in that area around May 17 - 19.

No pub crawls for me, but 1 or 2 good pints will be 'warmly' appreciated.

paul spencer

by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Sun Nov 1st, 2009 at 10:56:00 AM EST
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You could have 4 half-pints, at which point a pub crawl becomes a possibility.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 1st, 2009 at 10:58:59 AM EST
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Pub crawls are not the gruelling endurance test you might imagine. Maybe they were amongst certain macho types in their late teens, early 20s but I'm past 50 now and a short stroll between beers simply breaks up the scenery and sharpens the thirst.

In Cambridge there's a lovely crawl to be had between 4 pubs where the longest walk is perhaps 15 minutes and the total distance is a leisurely two miles.

however, 17/18 is colchester weekend rather than Cambridge if you want a beer fest. Nevertheless, I'm quite sure that nearer the time something can be found that will meet requirements.

Heck, if you want, york is do-able. which is a town you simply have to visit (still functioning viking drainage systems - like the paris catacombs but without the graffiti)

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Nov 1st, 2009 at 11:13:32 AM EST
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Modified pub crawl for old folks (we're 60s) will probably work.

paul spencer
by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 at 11:59:07 AM EST
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We'd love to share a meal with kcurie in Barcelona, if possible.

Don't forget Amanda2006. See here.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 1st, 2009 at 10:48:56 AM EST
If your wanderings should take you as far east as the Rhine, you're welcome to drop in here.

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by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Sun Nov 1st, 2009 at 01:10:40 PM EST
for the suggestion. Rhone, but no Rhine.

paul spencer
by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 at 12:00:04 PM EST
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and not once you pass through Schiphol Airport, Amsterdam?

I may consider checking out that meet-up in Spain if Amsterdam is not part of the itinerary...

by Nomad on Sun Nov 1st, 2009 at 04:28:48 PM EST
What, am I doing Barcelona again?

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 at 08:52:26 AM EST
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Although even the thought of a reunion with Barcelona warms the cockles of my heart, Spain is much to unknown to me to reject any location that would become the backdrop of a meet-up!
by Nomad on Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 at 09:17:32 AM EST
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used to say in Texas. With a handle like 'Nomad', should be no problem.

paul spencer
by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 at 12:03:16 PM EST
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We're usually around (40 miles south of Paris) and we have a bedroom available.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 at 04:29:37 AM EST
We're thinking approximately May 10 is our trip from Lyon to Paris. I know that it's a bit remote, but let me know how that might work for you, when you can.

paul spencer
by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 at 12:05:11 PM EST
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It shouldn't be a problem if you want to stop here(near Fontainebleau)on your way from Lyon to Paris. We're near the Paris-Lyon autoruoute.
Let's speak as we ge a little closer to the date.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 at 01:13:45 PM EST
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I hope that we'll get at least one meal together in Paris. And this time, if Jerome attends, we won't let him pay for the rest of us.

At this point we plan to be in Paris from May 11 to May 17. I know that this is remote - just putting out the tentative proposal.

paul spencer

by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 at 12:10:21 PM EST
It will be a pleasure to welcome you to Lyon! Will you travel by train or by car?

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by Melanchthon on Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 at 05:20:27 PM EST
Maybe all three. Thinking train in France and Spain; bus in Italy and Croatia; not sure in the UK. Might rent a car short-term in several places.

paul spencer
by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 at 06:05:26 PM EST
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Should the island of Saints and Scholars ever become part of your itinerary there should be bed and board available chez moi c. 30 KM south west of Dublin depending on the date.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 at 05:43:42 PM EST
We've been told that we should, but it's not likely to happen on this trip.

I did see that Aer Lingus has some 'come on' sales for 1 to 2 week trips to Ireland. Might work down the road a bit.

paul spencer

by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 at 06:08:43 PM EST
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