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by A swedish kind of death Fri May 6th, 2011 at 12:18:26 PM EST
Since no-one that knows something about it has put up one. Results, discussions etc in the comments.
front-paged by afew
The Scottish National Party will form Scotland's first ever majority government after a stunning election victory. The party has reached 65 seats in the 129-seat parliament, with some counts still to declare, taking key seats in Labour heartlands. The Liberal Democrat vote also collapsed, with the party returning four MSPs so far. The SNP now has enough Holyrood votes to hold an independence referendum. Labour leader Iain Gray announced he would stand down from the job in the autumn. SNP leader Alex Salmond, whose party formed a minority government after the 2007 elections, described the unfolding Holyrood election results as "historic".
The Scottish National Party will form Scotland's first ever majority government after a stunning election victory.
The party has reached 65 seats in the 129-seat parliament, with some counts still to declare, taking key seats in Labour heartlands.
The Liberal Democrat vote also collapsed, with the party returning four MSPs so far.
The SNP now has enough Holyrood votes to hold an independence referendum.
Labour leader Iain Gray announced he would stand down from the job in the autumn.
SNP leader Alex Salmond, whose party formed a minority government after the 2007 elections, described the unfolding Holyrood election results as "historic".
BREAKING NEWS: Scottish Labour Leader Iain Gray tells BBC Scotland he will stand down in the autumn after his party suffered a crushing defeat in the Holyrood elections.
See also European Tribune - The End of Labour in Scotland?
I believe that the forthcoming election will lead to the death of Labour in Scotland, and hopefully the birth of Scottish Labour.
Leader's have to be visibly leading (Ed Milband should take note) keep to the Fen Causeway
But the more interesting question is how a request to join the union from an independent Scotland would be treated (as it is the state of the UK, not its territory that are members today an independent Scotland would formally start outside the union (barring re-interpretation of rules)). Since Scotland would fulfill all requirements (legislation already in line with EU directives) the only thing that could keep it out is if some countries would try to block it.
So I guess it boils down to if the government in London would protest. Would it? Sweden's finest (and perhaps only) collaborative, leftist e-newspaper Synapze.se
1603 Co-convener of the Scottish Greens, Patrick Harvie, said he was disappointed that his party had only secured two MSPs. He said: "I would be lying if I tried to hide my disappointment. It looks like we are in for another five years of extremely hard work."
SNP 69 (+23) Labour 37 (-7) Cons 15 (-5) Lib-dems 5 (-12) Others 3 (+1)
BBC News - Election 2011 - Scotland Sweden's finest (and perhaps only) collaborative, leftist e-newspaper Synapze.se
The Speaker in the UK Parliament does not remain connected, in any way, with their former party. The Speaker seeks re-election as such, not using a party label.
However in the Scottish Parliament, the Presiding Officer is no longer counted with a party group when elected. I believe no Presiding Officer has yet been a candidate for re-election. I presume they would not use a party label in an election, but the custom may not yet have been clearly established as it has been in the UK Parliament.
Labour has fallen just short of an outright majority in the Welsh assembly after the final results came in from north Wales. Labour has won 30 seats, but was unable to the 31st needed for an overall majority but is set to try to form a government. The Conservatives took Aberconwy and Clwyd West, key Labour targets. Tories lost their leader Nick Bourne, but did well otherwise. However, Plaid and the Lib Dems had a poor night. Lib Dems finished behind the BNP in a number of seats.
Labour has fallen just short of an outright majority in the Welsh assembly after the final results came in from north Wales.
Labour has won 30 seats, but was unable to the 31st needed for an overall majority but is set to try to form a government.
The Conservatives took Aberconwy and Clwyd West, key Labour targets.
Tories lost their leader Nick Bourne, but did well otherwise. However, Plaid and the Lib Dems had a poor night.
Lib Dems finished behind the BNP in a number of seats.
Throughout the election we've stated we want a working majority so we can govern alone. There is some talk of trying to govern with 30 but personally I think that would cause huge rows and is risky - you only need one AM to be ill and you can't get a vote through. So rumours are that there could be a coalition with the lib dems but I think the picture will be clearer next week.
It was an incredible night and we made some important and impressive gains, some very close indeed, like Cardiff Central which was gained from the lib dems with a majority of only 38.
cross posted form my blog -
The results are in from North Wales, at the end of a very dramatic night of counts, knife edge marginals and superb performances for Welsh Labour. Whether or not we would get a majority was on a knife edge, we have 30 seats, rather than the 31 we hoped for. Nail biting, but what a brilliant night. Cardiff has turned red! Full results on the BBC site here I want to quickly pay tribute to the incredible campaign teams across Wales, from our HQ in Cardiff, to every local team of members that has gone out canvassing, leafleting and working unfailingly hard to get the vote out for Welsh Labour. It has been a wonderful experience to work alongside everyone and I'm going to miss the campaign massively when we are finished after today. I've really enjoyed the privilege of working with Carwyn Jones, he's a great man and a brilliant politician, and I'm very proud that we have him as our party leader. If you missed it, here is my article on WalesHome and the Welsh Labour flickr site of campaign images here
Full results on the BBC site here
I want to quickly pay tribute to the incredible campaign teams across Wales, from our HQ in Cardiff, to every local team of members that has gone out canvassing, leafleting and working unfailingly hard to get the vote out for Welsh Labour. It has been a wonderful experience to work alongside everyone and I'm going to miss the campaign massively when we are finished after today.
I've really enjoyed the privilege of working with Carwyn Jones, he's a great man and a brilliant politician, and I'm very proud that we have him as our party leader.
If you missed it, here is my article on WalesHome
and the Welsh Labour flickr site of campaign images here
Found various sleepy but happy newly elected AMs around the local pubs on my way home from watching the First Minister do his round of tv interviews this evening. All good stuff. The next couple of weeks will be interesting to watch.
Energy Secretary Chris Huhne suggests the Yes to alternative vote campaign has lost, just hours before the referendum result is due in. Mr Huhne - one the most vocal Yes campaigners - told the BBC that "if the boxes are anything like what I've seen it doesn't look good for the Yes cause". Polls suggest voters will reject a switch from first-past-the-post, to AV where candidates are ranked in order of preference. The result is expected around 2000 BST.
Energy Secretary Chris Huhne suggests the Yes to alternative vote campaign has lost, just hours before the referendum result is due in.
Mr Huhne - one the most vocal Yes campaigners - told the BBC that "if the boxes are anything like what I've seen it doesn't look good for the Yes cause".
Polls suggest voters will reject a switch from first-past-the-post, to AV where candidates are ranked in order of preference.
The result is expected around 2000 BST.
In fact, if it weren't for the No2AV adverts, nobody would even have known there was a referendum going on. And people were getting overpaid good money to run this sort of nonsense, whose side were they really on ?
And to cap it all, these supposedly professional campaigners seemed shocked to discover that tories (and David Blunkett) tell lies to achieve their ends, again and again and again. It's as TBG wrote in his diary
1. Reduce arguments to trite dog-whistle talking points - such as flip-flopper, tax-and-spend, "soft on defence", and so on. 2. Lie. Repeatedly, in public, with no moral consistency in their talking points. If you accept that the purpose of politics is power, not integrity, neither of these becomes shocking.
2. Lie. Repeatedly, in public, with no moral consistency in their talking points.
If you accept that the purpose of politics is power, not integrity, neither of these becomes shocking.
Do they not pay attention ? Gah !!
I have to say I was disappointed that Labour seemed so half-hearted about campaigning. A bit of Ed Miliband here, a bit of Eddie Izzard there. But a poll reveals that 60% of Labour voters didn't know that Labour were in favour of reform, largely cos the only labour politicians we saw campaigning were John Reid, David Blunkett and Margaret Beckett, all of whom were on the No side.
If Labour really wanted AV to win, then they didn't really give much of a sign. keep to the Fen Causeway
Still I would have expected English Labour MPs to be more active on encouraging a yes vote, even though there was no party line as such.
Saw a comment on twitter that has been retweeted massively - "32% of people vote for AV and that's a rejection. 35% of people vote for the Tories and that's a 5 year mandate"
4.51pm: The first AV referendum results are in. And it looks as if the pollsters are not going to have too much to worry about.Here they are, from the Isles of ScillyYes 288 (34.70%)No 542 (65.30%)No maj 254 (30.60%)Electorate 1,737; Turnout 830 (47.78%)
4.51pm: The first AV referendum results are in. And it looks as if the pollsters are not going to have too much to worry about.
Here they are, from the Isles of Scilly
Yes 288 (34.70%)No 542 (65.30%)No maj 254 (30.60%)Electorate 1,737; Turnout 830 (47.78%)
Perhaps it was a Scilly question? It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
UK voters have rejected a change to the voting system - a major blow to Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg after heavy election losses. Counting continues but more than 9.8m people have voted to keep first-past-the-post, more than 50% of votes cast. The No campaign is on course get a decisive 69% of the vote - leading AV campaigner Chris Huhne conceded the rejection had been "overwhelming".
UK voters have rejected a change to the voting system - a major blow to Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg after heavy election losses.
Counting continues but more than 9.8m people have voted to keep first-past-the-post, more than 50% of votes cast.
The No campaign is on course get a decisive 69% of the vote - leading AV campaigner Chris Huhne conceded the rejection had been "overwhelming".
As expected then. Sweden's finest (and perhaps only) collaborative, leftist e-newspaper Synapze.se
BBC News - Vote 2011: Nick Clegg quit calls after council losses
Nick Clegg is facing calls from the party's local government chiefs to step down as leader after heavy losses in the English council elections.
The British National Party looks set to lose many of the seats it holds on local councils in England. After 168 council election results, the anti-immigration party had won one seat with a net loss of nine councillors. The BNP lost all five of its seats in Stoke-on-Trent, where it launched its election campaign in England, and one of its two councillors in Burnley. The party, which has two MEPs elected in 2009, lost almost half its council seats in last year's local elections.
The British National Party looks set to lose many of the seats it holds on local councils in England.
After 168 council election results, the anti-immigration party had won one seat with a net loss of nine councillors.
The BNP lost all five of its seats in Stoke-on-Trent, where it launched its election campaign in England, and one of its two councillors in Burnley.
The party, which has two MEPs elected in 2009, lost almost half its council seats in last year's local elections.
* The Greens have won 23 seats on Brighton and Hove. That makes them the largest party, and it's the first time the Greens have won the most seats on any UK council. (Caroline Lucas, the Green leader, is MP for Brighton Pavilion.)
Counting is underway in the Northern Ireland assembly elections. There is still no official turnout figure, but the percentage is predicted to be in the low to mid 50s. This will be well down on both last year's Westminster election and the last assembly election four years ago.
Counting is underway in the Northern Ireland assembly elections.
There is still no official turnout figure, but the percentage is predicted to be in the low to mid 50s.
This will be well down on both last year's Westminster election and the last assembly election four years ago.
Anything interesting happening there? Sweden's finest (and perhaps only) collaborative, leftist e-newspaper Synapze.se
1721: That is all the results in: Final totals: SNP 69, Labour 37, Conservatives 15, Lib Dems 5, Scottish Greens 2, Independent 1
That's a reasonable working majority bearing in mid how fragmented the opposition is. "The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson
The reason that the pro corporate Scotsman and the Murdoch press went for the SNP was Salmond's evident sympathy for the Irish Celtic Tiger meme, and association with the likes of Reform Scotland and the 'Edinburgh Mafia' clique of financiers and professionals which still thinks it runs Scotland and is sniffing around 'fiscal devolution' ie corporate tax cuts and public sector 'reform'.
I think that Salmond might have difficulties within his own party in actually imposing any sort of austerity policy.
He's had a fairly easy ride so far thanks to the historic funding settlement and Swinney's astute policy of devolving financial decision making locally, so that the unpleasant decisions are not imposed top down.
But chickens - such as a five year Council tax freeze; no tuition fees; no prescription charges etc - are going to come home to roost, and neo-liberal policies offer no solution. "The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson
...Irish Celtic Tiger meme
You mean: borrow a shit-pile of money and piss it away in non-productive economic activity having no hope of ever being able to pay it back?
WOW! What a GREAT idea! She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
Rural Development:
We also want to see an expansion of the mutual model in rural Scotland and will support the creation of rural co-operative, including local energy co-operatives to enable communities to take forward their own local renewables projects. We will make the case for further devolution [whatever that means - AT] in this area to enable a more rapid expansion of co-operatives in rural Scotland.
Economic revitalization of rural areas depends on grabbing as much of the 'final consumer pound' as possible. Co-operatives is a known way (see Denmark) to achieve that goal. OK. cool.
What's not so cool is a drive to increase tourism - not quoted. Tourism, I can state from experience, is a lousy business to be in.
Land Reform:
We believe it is time for a review of Scotland's land reform legislation. For example, we believe the current period of three months for communities to take advantage of their right of first purchase is too short, and we would wish to se it extended to six months.
feh Doesn't go near far enough. Out of 19.46 million acres 1,700 entities own 9.something million. On the face of it, too few owning/controlling too much. She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
The Caledonian Mercury is politically neutral. The Caledonian Mercury does not endorse any viewpoint over another. The Caledonian Mercury is a forum to celebrate all the voices of Scotland. The Caledonian Mercury does not have a position Scottish independence. But I do. I support Scottish independence. And I want to write about it - as an individual journalist, not as Editor of The Caledonian Mercury - because there are so few pro-independence voices in the media. Those of us who believe the Scottish people are capable of governing themselves have a duty to speak up. Indeed, the anti-independence attacks have started already. Alex Salmond has called for an end to "fearmongering, negativity and scaremongering" and insults to the intelligence of the people of Scotland. Aye, guid luck wi' that, Eck. The SNP should force through the independence referendum right now. (continues)
The Caledonian Mercury does not have a position Scottish independence.
But I do.
I support Scottish independence. And I want to write about it - as an individual journalist, not as Editor of The Caledonian Mercury - because there are so few pro-independence voices in the media. Those of us who believe the Scottish people are capable of governing themselves have a duty to speak up. Indeed, the anti-independence attacks have started already.
Alex Salmond has called for an end to "fearmongering, negativity and scaremongering" and insults to the intelligence of the people of Scotland.
Aye, guid luck wi' that, Eck.
The SNP should force through the independence referendum right now. (continues)
I do note the pro-independence side has a major question they need to consider:
What is the SNP's position on the Crown lands? Those are the Big Wahoonie - IIRC - of land ownership in Scotland. As long as HRH is Head of State and privileged vis-a-vis the other economic entities - especially local land users - rural economic activity, and how much that activity positively affects the rest of the Scottish economy, will not substantially change. She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
But there is an ongoing initiative to ensure that control of the Crown Estate in Scotland - where the marine foreshore is increasingly valuable thanks to renewables - is devolved through the appointment of a dedicated Scottish Crown Commissioner so that more of the revenues remain in Scotland.
The bigger picture is the completely iniquitous distribution of property in Scotland - which puts the average banana republic to shame. The Community Right to Buy - despite being heavily nobbled from the start - has nevertheless made some progress, but is currently limited to rural areas, and is totally under-funded. "The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson
In a way it's a herring of redness. In another ... it goes to the heart of the matter. Lizzy may, or may not, directly own/control the land but she is the Poster Posh example of a deep-dog serious Scottish problem: absentee landlordism locking locals out. It's been 35 years since I talked/studied with the Single Taxers but, as I recall, Scotland was The Horrible Example of land use law and policies gone wrong. She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
Immigration to various Imperial lands was an "externality." She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
If the Scots Nats produce a bill, the presiding officer has to withdraw it from being laid before parliament, The only way it can happen is if the UK government agrees and votes it through the UK parliament. and the chance of Smiling Daves mob losing all that possible oil seems rather slim Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
As I see it, if you are right, SNP could elect a presiding officer that interprets the devoluation as allowing an advisory referendum, and the Scottish authorities could move on to hold a referendum. If the result is a yes, then the Scottish parliament declares independence. If any step is challenged in court the Scottish government needs only to stall and continue with its actions. An independent Scotland will not fall under UK jurisdiction anyway.
The UK government can at any time stop this by sending in the troops, closing the Scottish parliament and turning it into another type of conflict. But I do not think that would happen.
In general assemblies that declare independence does not have a legal right to do so within the previous state. The crucial point is if they are believed to have the moral right. Sweden's finest (and perhaps only) collaborative, leftist e-newspaper Synapze.se
I'm sure you can have strong legislative controls on definitions of intent to smallhold and size of house to ensure that it isn't abused but right now the Highlands are pickled in 19th century aspic as a playground for country gentry to shoot upon. And this is land that once held a huge rural population keep to the Fen Causeway
Add a credit union, somewhere along the way, and now you're talking.
BTW, I have no illusions about the moral superiority of co-ops or credit unions. These organizations do, however, provide a maximum return to and for the people who create the wealth while giving them a chance - whether it is seized or not - of having more control over their lives. She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
It may not be a varied diet, but with a little jiggery pokery, and co-ops help a lot to spread the load, a good living can be had. But the locality has to be willing to allow houses to be built - and more than those completely useless "crofts" which is simply 16th century technology keep to the Fen Causeway
Åland island also has a ban on absentee ownership, though I believe that is only allowed within the EU due to a special deal when Finland joined the EU. Sweden's finest (and perhaps only) collaborative, leftist e-newspaper Synapze.se
Chapter IV. Protection of cultivated and cultivable land, etc. Section 8. Protection of cultivated land All cultivated land that can provide a basis for profitable operations shall be maintained. The municipality 1 and the County Governor may prohibit measures that may result in poor maintenance of cultivated land. The municipality shall make recommendations concerning measures that should be implemented if land is poorly maintained or remains unused. if the Ministry 2 finds that cultivated land is poorly maintained or unused, it may issue an order to the owner or lessee regarding the measures he shall implement in order that the land may be cultivated profitably, under the circumstances. The owner may also be ordered to lease out the land for a period of not more than ten years. In the case of cultivated land that cannot provide a basis for profitable operations, the Ministry 2 may order that forests be planted on the land, or that measures beneficial to the cultural landscape be taken. if the order has not been complied with upon expiry of the time-limit, the Ministry' may enter into an agreement that the land be leased out for a period of not more than ten years or make a decision to expropriate parts or all of the property in order to transfer it to others. Orders may be issued on such conditions as are necessary for achieving the purposes of this Act. 1 Cfsection3. 2 Ministry of Agriculture pursuant to resolution no.413 of 12 May 1995 Section 9. Use of cultivated and cultivable land Cultivated land must not be used for purposes that do not promote agricultural production. Cultivable land must not be disposed of in such a way as to render it unfit for agricultural production in the future. The Ministry may in special cases grant an exemption if, after an overall evaluation of the circumstances, it finds that the agricultural interests should not have~priority. In so deciding, account shall be taken, among other things, of approved plans pursuant to the Planning and Building Act 1, operational or environmental disadvantages for agriculture in the area, the cultural landscape and the benefit to society that would result from land being disposed of for another purpose. Account shall also be taken of whether the land can be restored to agricultural production. The presentation of alternative solutions may be required. Consent to dispose of land for another purpose may be given on such conditions as are necessary for achieving the purposes of this Act. The exemption shall lapse if efforts to use the land for the purpose in question have not commenced within three years after the decision was made. The Ministry 2 may order that illegal installations or buildings be removed.
All cultivated land that can provide a basis for profitable operations shall be maintained.
The municipality 1 and the County Governor may prohibit measures that may result in poor maintenance of cultivated land. The municipality shall make recommendations concerning measures that should be implemented if land is poorly maintained or remains unused.
if the Ministry 2 finds that cultivated land is poorly maintained or unused, it may issue an order to the owner or lessee regarding the measures he shall implement in order that the land may be cultivated profitably, under the circumstances. The owner may also be ordered to lease out the land for a period of not more than ten years.
In the case of cultivated land that cannot provide a basis for profitable operations, the Ministry 2 may order that forests be planted on the land, or that measures beneficial to the cultural landscape be taken.
if the order has not been complied with upon expiry of the time-limit, the Ministry' may enter into an agreement that the land be leased out for a period of not more than ten years or make a decision to expropriate parts or all of the property in order to transfer it to others.
Orders may be issued on such conditions as are necessary for achieving the purposes of this Act.
1 Cfsection3.
2 Ministry of Agriculture pursuant to resolution no.413 of 12 May 1995 Section 9. Use of cultivated and cultivable land
Cultivated land must not be used for purposes that do not promote agricultural production. Cultivable land must not be disposed of in such a way as to render it unfit for agricultural production in the future.
The Ministry may in special cases grant an exemption if, after an overall evaluation of the circumstances, it finds that the agricultural interests should not have~priority. In so deciding, account shall be taken, among other things, of approved plans pursuant to the Planning and Building Act 1, operational or environmental disadvantages for agriculture in the area, the cultural landscape and the benefit to society that would result from land being disposed of for another purpose. Account shall also be taken of whether the land can be restored to agricultural production. The presentation of alternative solutions may be required.
Consent to dispose of land for another purpose may be given on such conditions as are necessary for achieving the purposes of this Act.
The exemption shall lapse if efforts to use the land for the purpose in question have not commenced within three years after the decision was made.
The Ministry 2 may order that illegal installations or buildings be removed.
Don't know what this all means in practice. She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
And rightly so. She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
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