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Greece: Police tortures anti-fascists

by talos Fri Oct 12th, 2012 at 04:11:52 AM EST

This is from the Guardian. It is a story that establishes both the degree to which the Athens riot police units act as Nazi allies and the degree to which the media system in Greece is conspiring to keep mum about it:

The Guardian: Greek anti-fascist protesters 'tortured by police' after Golden Dawn clash

Fifteen anti-fascist protesters arrested in Athens during a clash with supporters of the neo-Nazi party Golden Dawn have said they were tortured in the Attica General Police Directorate (GADA) - the Athens equivalent of Scotland Yard - and subjected to what their lawyer describes as an Abu Ghraib-style humiliation.

Members of a second group of 25 who were arrested after demonstrating in support of their fellow anti-fascists the next day said they were beaten and made to strip naked and bend over in front of officers and other protesters inside the same police station.

(This is the detainees' version of events in Greek, Spanish and English)

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What happened is this: On September 30th the Antiauthoritarian Movement, the largest anarchist assembly in Greece, and the most organized by far, organized its third "antifascist patrol" in the slums of central Athens, where Golden Dawn has reigned and terrorized immigrants and anti-fascists for months now, aided and abetted by the police. They work as a mafia there: they "safeguard" the area from those "criminal aliens" but at the same time it is reported that they extort money from local businesses and are rumoured to be involved in drug dealing. They do however have a real following in the area (an area however that electorally voted SYRIZA as first party in the last elections I note). The patrol consisted of perhaps 100 motorbikes with two people each and at least one club per bike.

(Warning annoying music - note around 5' a crowd of immigrants who have come out to cheer them on)

Unlike the previous two patrols, this one caught one of the Nazis in the act of smashing up an immigrants' store. He was severely beaten and the rest of the local nazi gang hid in their basements for a while. However the police was instantly notified, and soon attacked the patrol in full force and with extreme prejudice and violence as if they were protecting "their" side. As the Guardian article details, when the arrested anarchists were eventually sent to police HQ, they were abused and tortured in a manner that reminds one of the military junta's practices. Note that charges were pressed only against five of them. They were not allowed to see a lawyer for almost 20 hours. Despite the fact that the police knew that they didn't have a case against most of those arrested, they continued the mistreatment...

Five SYRIZA MPs questioned the government in parliament regarding this handling of detainees. The Minister of Public Order (Nikos Dendias, a man who would certainly feel comfortable in, say, a Le Pen cabinet) came up with a response that basically accused SYRIZA of "supporting extremists" and didn't even bother to answer on the substance of the question. It is obvious that the political leadership is complicit in this egregious mistreatment. It has elected to harden its stance, as violence seems about to become its only real weapon and Golden Dawn its muscle-men...

Another amazing and shocking thing about all this however, is that the MS media have refused to give it but the slightest and most dismissive of mentions. This was not front-page news in the large dailies (I doubt that it made it to any part of most papers) - only in the party press of the left was it headlined, extensively there, with enough material to base further reporting on). Of course this was never mentioned in any TV programs. There are no MS Media that could cover such stories in Greece, in the same way, and for the same reason more or less, that there are few MS Media that even bother giving SYRIZA equal space or time to present its opinions... Unlike the Nazis who are slowly developing into media darlings...

Thus between an oligarchic press, a pro-nazi police force and a Nazi-leaning ministry of public order Greece is being led to a 21st century Weimar, perhaps the first of many victims of the EU shock-doctrine... Democracy is not an issue because the people that impose austerity have a very, very dim view of democracy anyway....

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it reminds me of Genoa.

the medium is the message, muzzled media > no message.

and this greek government, countenancing neo-nazism at home in order to keep up the pain pressure on the weak and poor, so as to justify another loan from the country which invented nazism, and now calls itself the troika...

europe 2012... facepalm

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Oct 10th, 2012 at 10:28:59 AM EST
Sickening... whether it's surprising is a whole different story.

Greece will stay on the ropes for much much longer, so that stuff like this can happen to it:

http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite2_1_09/10/2012_465379

Dairy giant FAGE is transferring its headquarters to Luxembourg as it aims to benefit from the favorable tax environment of the country and from better access to bank funding, as well as reducing its exposure to the Greek financial crisis.
by Upstate NY on Wed Oct 10th, 2012 at 11:30:28 AM EST
They're keeping their factories in Greece of course. They will be taxed in Luxembourg, but produce in Greece. It does make sense as far as funding is concerned, they can't get a dime from the Greek banking system. But this is one form of "tax-base-stripping"

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom - William Blake
by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Wed Oct 10th, 2012 at 12:43:08 PM EST
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And yet another blow: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/11/us-greece-coke-idUSBRE89A0JS20121011

Coca-Cola Hellenic, one of the biggest companies, is moving HQs.

by Upstate NY on Thu Oct 11th, 2012 at 09:16:48 AM EST
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Greece's biggest company, bottler CCH, quits for Switzerland | Reuters

The firm, in which The Coca-Cola Co (KO.N) of the United States has a 23-percent stake, bottles Coke and other drinks in 28 countries from Russia to Nigeria. About 95 percent of its shareholders and business activity are outside Greece.

"This transaction makes clear business sense," chief executive Dimitris Lois told analysts in a conference call. An overwhelming majority of shareholders have already accepted moving a company which has long complained about Greek taxes.

Analyst Manos Hatzidakis of Beta Securities in Athens said that the move made sense for the firm, which follows Greek dairy group FAGE this month in seeking a low-tax, low-volatility haven for its corporate base - in FAGE's case Luxembourg.

No job loss but tax income loss. There goes the deficit reduction target again. But dealing with tax evasion? Not a Troika priority.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Oct 11th, 2012 at 09:45:56 AM EST
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Hey this was expected. They warned us before the elections that if SYRIZA won, important companies would start leaving the country... Oh, wait...

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom - William Blake
by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Thu Oct 11th, 2012 at 11:24:17 AM EST
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Speaking of SYRIZA, do they say ITOLDYOUSO in any form?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Oct 11th, 2012 at 01:22:17 PM EST
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getting arms training.

It may well be useful in the near future.

The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill

by r------ on Thu Oct 11th, 2012 at 09:17:36 AM EST
No "may" about it.

Unemployment, food shortages, narrow national interest, politicians being squeezed between their international peers and hoi polloi.

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by Number 6 on Thu Oct 11th, 2012 at 09:55:01 AM EST
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If you repeat Brüning's policies, you'll repeat his results.
by oliver on Sun Oct 14th, 2012 at 12:15:33 PM EST
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Did he get a Nobel prize, too?

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Oct 14th, 2012 at 01:29:43 PM EST
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No, but...

List of Nobel Peace Prize laureates - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Charles G. Dawes[A] United States "[F]or [work on] the Dawes Plan for German reparations which was seen as having provided the economic underpinning of the Locarno Pact of 1925"[10][33]


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by A swedish kind of death on Sun Oct 14th, 2012 at 02:58:50 PM EST
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Locarno divided borders in Europe into two categories: western, which were guaranteed by Locarno treaties, and eastern borders of Germany with Poland, which were open for revision, thus leading to German renewed claims to the Free City of Danzig and Polish territories approved by the League of Nations including the Polish Corridor, and Upper Silesia.
Worthy of a Peace Price, indeed.

I distribute. You re-distribute. He gives your hard-earned money to lazy scroungers. -- JakeS
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Oct 14th, 2012 at 03:42:44 PM EST
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No, but one of his successors was nominated.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Mon Oct 15th, 2012 at 02:48:19 AM EST
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That was sarcastic it seems...

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom - William Blake
by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Mon Oct 15th, 2012 at 07:59:18 AM EST
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You're right. But it seems that the Nobel committee didn't get it. They've become smarter: when someone from a physics department in Israel nominated Menachem Begin (explanation: "He deserves the Physics prize at least as much as he deserved the Peace prize") they realized it was a joke.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Mon Oct 15th, 2012 at 08:06:37 AM EST
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Apparently (Bengt Nilsson writing in Swedish about it) many papers took it very seriously. Brandt also commented on the approving telegrams he had got from nazi-supporters, whom he had expected to be furious.

Göteborgs Handels- och Sjöfartstidning (which would have papers confiscated by the government during the war for too anti-nazi sentiments) understood the joke and wrote "For Mr Brandt the consequences might be less delightful. To make mockery of stupidity is dangerous. The stupid are, as Ibsen noted, horribly many."

While there was anger and demands that he should step down, Brandt served out his term and returned to regional politics and his job as school inspector. Retired in 1950 and died in 1955.

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by A swedish kind of death on Mon Oct 15th, 2012 at 08:20:49 AM EST
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Yes, be careful what jokes you make, lest people think you are serious.


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by Number 6 on Mon Oct 15th, 2012 at 09:27:13 AM EST
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Forgot to mention: the dege was towards the nomination of Chamberlain. If Chamberlain deserved one for preventing war, surely Hitler deserved one for accepting prevention.

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by A swedish kind of death on Mon Oct 15th, 2012 at 08:22:32 AM EST
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*edge

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by A swedish kind of death on Mon Oct 15th, 2012 at 08:22:48 AM EST
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How long before they use drone strikes against the protesters? That's coming, you know. Nice, impersonal "crowd control".

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Fri Oct 12th, 2012 at 09:06:36 AM EST
Here's one option. Will that be cash or credit?

It only seems to be for video, but note the picture across from "Crowd Control Applications".

Here's Orange earlier this year. Still only video I think.

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by Number 6 on Fri Oct 12th, 2012 at 09:23:41 AM EST
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Just arm those babies, tell the police/military to step back, and away you go. WW III between governments and their civilians.

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Fri Oct 12th, 2012 at 11:07:18 AM EST
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Cops are fascists.  Big surprise.
by rifek on Fri Oct 12th, 2012 at 01:50:04 PM EST
Paul Mason: Alarm at Greek police 'collusion' with far-right Golden Dawn:
Close up, in other words, the social and political outcome of the IMF (International Monetary Fund) and EU (European Union) austerity programme, and of the implosion of mainstream politics in Greece, looks like a catastrophe for democracy

Includes interview with high-ranking Golden Dawn thug, where he admits their influence in the police and predicts that they will be the next party, after SYRIZA, which will govern Greece....

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom - William Blake

by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Thu Oct 18th, 2012 at 03:23:53 AM EST


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