Thu Aug 30th, 2012 at 07:36:30 AM EST
Because I can't follow posts any more, being hidden and buried in long worms of text I thought I would put this diary where we can continue our arguments...
First of all let us talk about PR because all this started with them. What exactly some of you like about them and their actions? And what exactly few of us dislike about them and their actions?
As for me I am totally not against protests, activism, fight for more freedom anywhere, let alone in Russia. What I dislike is the way they are protesting by offending other Russian citizens who happened to be religious or even not, but who dislike this specific action. I would prefer if they found other place and means (words) to protest against Putin, even Patriarchy or place that Church have in today politic in Russia.And NO, and that's a big NO I could not agree with draconian punishment they received.I do not think it will stand.We'll see.On the other hand today on TV news here in Australia there was a part saying "PR the most popular group in the world" , so as we all know that kind of popularity has a price tag...especially when one is so popular without world even knowing any of his creations...I can bet that 99% of fans did not even hear or read words of the "song" they are popular for...
No I do not like to see politicians even near priests and also babies but that's reality all over the world in time of an election.
Russia has definitely long way in front of it before it will look anything resembling democracy and protests are definitely one way of moving things ( all tho slowly) in that direction. Having lived in democracy for quite some time now I have to admit that it is far from perfect. Especially when it like lately is actually serving capitalist class big time not taking in to account common well being of other classes. This is a large topic which we should probably leave for another diary and I mentioned it here just to strike similarities with oligarchy that we can see in Russia.
Somehow, long history of democracy compared with short history of not having communism in Russia and elsewhere give people from the west false impression that they have real freedom of choice and bla bla bla...But is it really so? Yes, there is a lot of freedom " on paper" that by the way can be taken in one term of conservative government in power , as we are witnessing right now, but actually how exactly you see your freedom nowadays?
Religion, atheism...We seem to disagree a lot about this...and especially about who has right to impose their values on others in democracy?
Well I just tried to start discussion...Your turn...