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July Open Thread

by Bjinse Mon Jul 16th, 2018 at 08:27:59 PM EST

He who cannot put his thoughts on ice should not enter into the heat of an open thread.

When analyzing the United States it must be kept in mind 67% of Americans reject the Theory of Evolution.

Meaning: 67% of Americans have the Knowledge and Critical Thinking Skills of a medieval peasant.  

Therefore: whenever there is a choice between deciding an action was based on ignorant stupidity or a rational deeply laid plan .... go with ignorant stupidity.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Wed Jul 18th, 2018 at 12:07:26 AM EST
To have a democracy you need a democratic discourse. People need to be able to access information and hold critical discussions. In our system the first is difficult and the latter is a joke.

And getting worse.
Why I Hate Google, Twitter, and Facebook | naked capitalism

I am a blogger. It is my job to blog, which I've been doing on a daily basis since 2003. Reading and writing is what I do all day. I'm lucky to be able to survive doing it, and I'm happy to be doing it[1]. I hate Google because it tries to make me a stupid reader. I hate Twitter and Facebook because they make me a stupid writer. I've been wanting to get this off my chest for some time, so allow me to explain.
by generic on Wed Jul 18th, 2018 at 09:26:56 AM EST
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Posted at the wrong place earlier.

by generic on Wed Jul 18th, 2018 at 12:57:21 PM EST
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Is anybody actually surprised that there are people in the US who genuinely believe 3 yr olds should carry guns?

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Jul 19th, 2018 at 08:33:24 PM EST
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The only thing that can stop a bad three year old with a gun...
by fjallstrom on Tue Jul 24th, 2018 at 05:57:01 AM EST
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There are more. I have no words.

by generic on Tue Jul 24th, 2018 at 06:41:39 AM EST
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Vox: Why France produces the most World Cup players
by Bernard on Wed Jul 18th, 2018 at 08:29:01 PM EST

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Thu Jul 19th, 2018 at 12:27:39 AM EST
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interfluidity » Authority
We use the word "authority" to mean lots of things -- police and state actors are "the authorities", an expert may be "an authority on the matter, etc. But I want to suggest that it is very useful to think of authority as a characteristic of information in a social context. In particular, information is "authoritative" when some community of people to coordinate upon it and behave as if it were true, regardless of whether or not the information is in fact true, or even of whether the individuals doing the behaving personally believe it to be true. If information is authoritative, members of the community behave as if the information is true even despite strong, often opposing interests in the question. When we claim that someone "is an authority", we are claiming that the information they produce will (or should) alter behavior within some human community. Authority subsists in the relationship between information and behavior in a social context.
Let's take an example. A judge, in the context of a trial, is an authority. Suppose a judge pronounces a defendant guilty, despite her protestations of innocence. Both parties have produced information. But it is the information produced by the judge that guides the behavior of the vast preponderance of the community. Suppose the bailiff, who was present for the trial, privately came to a different conclusion than the judge, and believes that the defendant is in fact innocent. The bailiff will nevertheless behave as if she were guilty, taking her back into custody rather than setting her free.

More often than not, there is not so much cognitive dissonance. Most of us, most of the time, take a huge variety of conjectural "social facts" as given, condition our behavior as if they were true, and to the degree that we even give them a second thought, we believe them to be true. I log into my bank's website, and check the balance of my account. Most of the time, I take the number presented as an authoritative representation of how much money I have "there". I would prefer, quite strongly, that the number be millions larger, and my deposit balance at a bank is nothing more or less than what the bank acknowledges that it owes to me, so it is in a small way extraordinary that the bank and I are so willing to agree, despite diametrically opposed economic interests on the matter. But the miracle of authority is that it quells many disputes so thoroughly that parties don't even imagine that there is any ambiguity or question to argue about. Authoritative information presents itself as factual, even when it (like a bank balance) has no external, empirical referent and is purely a social construction.

by generic on Mon Jul 23rd, 2018 at 12:43:12 PM EST
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Tue Jul 24th, 2018 at 04:17:51 AM EST
by generic on Fri Jul 27th, 2018 at 09:08:26 AM EST
Or - Communism was such a failure that Capitalism had to change its mode of operation to create an educated middle class to maintain a technical lead.

With the collapse of communism this middle class is no longer needed and steps are being taken to return to industrial feudalism

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 28th, 2018 at 08:12:21 AM EST
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by generic on Fri Jul 27th, 2018 at 02:05:34 PM EST
Why do people use archaic words that nobody understands, instead of saying "extract of opium"?
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Fri Jul 27th, 2018 at 03:03:02 PM EST
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victorian ladies love them some laudanum.

flapper ladies love them some benzedrene.

rosie riveters love them some meth

twiggies love them some coke

but all the progressive love that smack talk

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Jul 27th, 2018 at 05:58:05 PM EST
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by generic on Mon Jul 30th, 2018 at 03:41:12 PM EST
How about trying a Death to the Economist bumper sticker instead?
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Mon Jul 30th, 2018 at 04:48:35 PM EST
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