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Fucking Israelis Stirring Up Big Trouble [Update]

by Oui Tue Sep 18th, 2018 at 09:44:48 AM EST

[Update-1] To be added soon ...

3D Reconstruction of Il-20 Downing in Syria, Released by Russian MoD

After report by Russian MoD on investigation Israeli strike on Latakia, president Putin will take appropriate measures …

Russia Capable of Denying Israel Access to Syrian Airspace | Sputnik News |
S-300 missile system: Russia to upgrade Syrian air defences | BBC News |

END OF UPDATE

Follow-up diary to - Syrian Civil War - Endgame In Idlib?

Israelis have been left out of the loop by the Americans in the war effort in Syria. The diplomatic effort is now in the hands of three major players Turkey, Russia and Iran.

Here what happened in the last 24 hours above Latakia ...

Russia Reports Il-20M "Coot-A" Electronic Intelligence Aircraft Lost in Syria During Israeli Air Strike Near Latakia | The Aviationist |

A Russian military Ilyushin Il-20M Coot-A spyplane has been reported as "down" at approximately 2300 local time (2000 GMT) on Monday Sept. 17, in the Mediterranean Sea off the Syrian coast. There were 14 crewmembers on board the aircraft according to multiple reports.

Continued below the fold ...


Russian government media outlet TASS posted that, "On September 17, at about 11:00 Moscow time, the connection with the crew of the Russian Il-20 aircraft was lost over the Mediterranean Sea when the plane was returning to the airbase of Khmeimim, 35 kilometers from the coast of Syria."

The report in Russian media released early September 18 in U.S. time zones, went on to say, "The ministry specified that the mark of Il-20 went off the radars disappeared during the attack of four Israeli F-16 aircraft on Syrian targets in the province of Latakia."

In the United States, media outlet CNN immediately attributed the loss of the Russian surveillance and control aircraft to the Syrians, reporting that, "A Russian maritime patrol aircraft with multiple personnel on board was inadvertently shot down by Syrian regime anti-aircraft artillery on Monday after the Syrians came under attack by Israeli missiles, according to a US official with knowledge of the incident."

The incident happened during an Israeli air strike in Syria being conducted by four F-16s according to CNN and other media outlets. The alleged Israeli strikes were reported to have hit multiple targets in the Syrian province of Latakia.

Confusion surrounds the causes of the loss. U.S. military says they believe the aircraft was shot down by Syrian Air Defense. Russians mention the proximity of Israeli F-16 Jets and French frigate in the area at the time of the incident.

 

The Russian MOD squarely puts blame on the Israeli Defense Forces for using de Russian IL20 plane as decoy in their attack on the Latakia area. There will be verbal warfare in the coming hours between Israel's PM Netanyahu (deep litigation trouble) and Russia's president Putin. The mutual understanding between the two nations on major issues as the Ukraine will have ended for now. The Israelis have managed to get the attention of the world once again.

Russia 'reserves right to respond' after saying Israel's actions led to downing of Il-20 by Syria | RT |
Russia to Israel: 'You are to blame for downing of Il-20 and death of crew' | RT |
Russia blasts Israel's 'deliberate provocation' after Syria attack | Ynet News |

[Update-1] Netanyahu’s Warning to Putin

PM Netanyahu playing with fire as the close relationship is based on mutual respect and a direct warning by president Putin NOT to endanger the lives of Russian military by IAF strikes on Syria and depots of suspected Iranian arms for Hezbollah.

No Breaking News coverage in Western television media .. Russia Today has a LIVE coverage of the incident and the implications. The Israelis are starting to react as the Ambassador to Moscow has been summoned by Russia’s FM.

In preliminary statements the Israelis say they are sorry for Russian lives lost but deflect blame on Syria and its allies Hezbollah and Iran. This is unacceptable for Russia as it was a deliberate act to use the cove of an incoming Russian military aircraft on a path to land at Hmeimim military base in Latakia.

ANALYSIS: What Russia’s Latakia condemnation means for Israel | Jerusalem Post |
Israel rejects Moscow accusations in downing of Russian plane over Syria | Middle East Eye |

[END OF UPDATE]

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Result of Libyan intervention was a stepping stone to send major supplies of arms, munitions and jihadists to northern Syria moving through the border with Turkey. Thanks to funding by Qatar, the Muslim Brotherhood nation loved so by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. The Southern front was formed inside Jordan with training ground for fighters under supervision of British and American Special Forces. The third wave came from Al Qaeda out of Iraq’s Anbar province seeking revenge for US invasion of 2003. The goal was to establish a caliphate in the Levant – ISIL – ISIS – Islamic State force of cutthroats and pure criminals. Saudi Arabian prince Bandar took command of the jihadists going into Syria as he had done before with the Mujahideen in the Afghan War against the Soviets. Prince Bandar opened death row in KSA and send these men into Syria with the opportunity to go to paradise by becoming a martyr. Nice ally of the United States and Israel!

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I don't trust for one second that IDF is out of the loop.
And it goes without saying that friendly fire is a ludicrous cover story.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Tue Sep 18th, 2018 at 10:19:17 AM EST
Why is it a ludicrous cover story?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Sep 18th, 2018 at 10:32:25 AM EST
[ Parent ]
point of order

but for IDF undisuputed invasion of Syrian air space for the express purpose of destroying an SAA installation at Latakia,

  1. SAA would not have fired anti-aircraft munitions in the flight path of a Russian Ilyushin Il-20M Coot;
  2. Russian Ilyushin Il-20M Coot would not be destroyed;
  3. and I would not be answering the question, Why friendly fire is a ludicrous cover story (to exculpate Israeli responsibility for the deaths of 14 Russian and unnumbered SSA casualties).


Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Wed Sep 19th, 2018 at 02:49:45 AM EST
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Russia, USA, Israel, Iran and Syria: a continuous struggle to trigger or avoid war
Posted on 18/09/2018 by Elijah J Magnier
Simultaneously with the downing of the Russian plane, four Israeli F-16s attacked Syrian and Iranian military targets around the northern city of Latakia. The Syrian air defence system responded against the incoming missiles and hit the Russian plane while in landing position over the Hamymeen military airport.
"the day after an Israeli F-16 destroyed an Iranian military cargo plane on the Damascus airport runway"

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Sat Sep 22nd, 2018 at 02:46:49 AM EST
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Just as the stupid decision by the Bush/Cheney administration to pre-empt the War in Iraq before the Afghanistan expedition had reached its goal, and was ready for pulling out the allied forces, gave the Iranians a strong foothold in Iraq.  With the stupid decision by Obama/HRC [with NATO allies UK and France] to intervene in Libya and directly going into Syria for regime change, it gave the Russians the opportunity to secure its bond with the Assad regime and maintain a stronger presence in Latakia with a naval port on the Mediterranean and an expanded military base.

Of course Israel now is facing reality as the Iranians in Syria are within close range of the its border. As a result of the conflict in Syria, the militants of Hezbollah and the Iranian Quds military have been battle hardened. The arrogance of the Netanyahu regime this past decade is a direct cause of the present stand-off with Iran, Turkey and neighbouring states. Reminds me of Israeli PM Golda Meir and the surprise attack by Egypt's Anwar Sadat in 1973.

The Last Nuclear Moment | NY Times Opinion - Avner Cohen in 1973 |

Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.

by Oui on Tue Sep 18th, 2018 at 10:52:44 AM EST
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According to Ha'aretz Russia invited the Israeli ambassador for a discussion. Israel denies this. According to the Russians, Israel gave them 1 minute warning (I haven't found anything in English about this yet).
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Tue Sep 18th, 2018 at 10:34:06 AM EST
Israel staying quiet on the Latakia attack thus the Russians are pushing the narrative taken over by the media!

Russia blames Israel after military plane shot down off Syria | BBC News |

What does Russia accuse Israel of doing?

In a statement, Russia said Israel's "irresponsible actions" were to blame, saying it was given less than a minute's warning ahead of the strikes, which was not enough time to get the military surveillance plane out of the way.

"The Israeli planes deliberately created a dangerous situation for surface ships and aircraft in the area," a defence ministry spokesman said.

The spokesman accused Israeli pilots of "using the Russian airplane as a cover", putting it "in the line of fire coming from Syrian air defence systems".

Russia military aircraft 'disappeared' off Syria during Israeli strikes | DW |
Russia says Syria shot down one of its military planes, blames Israel | Hürriyet Daily News |
Syria accidentally shot down Russian military plane, admits Kremlin | The Independent |

    Later on Tuesday morning the Kremlin said allied Syrian forces had inadvertently downed the plane, but heaped the blame on Israel for "irresponsible actions" - saying the country had launched air strikes by four F-16 jets with just one minute's warning, triggering the defensive barrage.

    There was not enough time to get the Il-20 out of harm's way, the RIA news agency quoted Russia's defence ministry as saying. The BBC quoted the ministry as saying: "Using the Russian airplane as a cover, Israeli pilots put it in the line of fire coming from Syrian air defence systems."



Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.
by Oui on Tue Sep 18th, 2018 at 11:14:41 AM EST
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During press statement after meeting with Hungarian Victor Orban ...

Putin: Israel Didn't Down Il-20, Chain of Tragic Circumstances Led to Incident | Sputnik News |

Vladimir Putin has addressed the downing of the Russian IL-20 by a Syrian surface-to-air missile on Monday evening. Earlier Moscow blamed Israeli jets for having provoked the tragic accident.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has offered condolences over the death of the crew of the aircraft Il-20 downed in Syria.

"When people die, especially in such tragic circumstances, it is always a tragedy, a tragedy for us all, for the whole country and for the families of our dead friends. In this connection, I certainly offer my condolences to the relatives of those who got killed in the crash,' Putin said at a press conference with Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban in Moscow.

Putin stated that the Russian side is set to thoroughly investigate the case.

    "Most certainly, we have to sort the case out most seriously. And our attitude to the tragedy is outlined in the Russian Defense Ministry's statement," he noted, adding he personally approved it.

    "Russia's retaliatory measures with regard to the Il-20 downing will be directed primarily at stepping up security of Russian military officers in Syria, our military facilities in the Syrian Arab Republic," he said. "These will be the steps everyone will notice" he stressed.

Flirting with Victor Orban, part of the Visegrád Four, ... what do those nations have in common?

Theresa May - Benyamin Netanyahu - Donald Trump - Vladimir Putin - and a strange duck in the bite Angela Merkel!

Vladimir Putin and Viktor Orban's special relationship | DW |

On diplomacy across the globe, the United States is AWOL!

North Korea's Kim Jong Un says he hopes for `big outcome' at inter-Korean summit

Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.

by Oui on Tue Sep 18th, 2018 at 02:37:42 PM EST
The pro-Israel goons rule the Twitter algorithm ...

Hi Tikun Olam
Your account, @richards1052 has
been locked for violating the
Twitter Rules

...
Two sites incited their followers to engage in this online ambush.  @TheMossadIl and Israellycool were the key culprits.  The former account even tweeted encouragement to his followers to report my account.  Ironically, that tweet which I reported was not found to have violated Twitter rules.

Aussie Dave, Anonymous No Longer

This was not the first time, Richard Silverstein has often been harassed in this manner of deceit by right-wing supporters of the Likud administration of Bibi Netanyahu. The Prime Minister's Office (PMO) has quite often played a leading role in state propaganda.

Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.

by Oui on Tue Sep 18th, 2018 at 08:50:21 PM EST
So it appears to be true ... Bibi Netanyahu send a Yom Kippur warning to Israel's foes in Syria with "accomplices" Russia, Turkey and Iran.



Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.
by Oui on Tue Sep 18th, 2018 at 08:51:30 PM EST
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Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.
by Oui on Tue Sep 18th, 2018 at 08:54:20 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Playing the political game as a concert violinist ... and doing it with success over decades. When will his good luck run out? Is it similar to Einstein's Theory of Relativity and the time frame in outer space. Will mankind be able to detect doomsday?

Damned Middle-East Appeasers   by ask @BooMan on May 21, 2008

The reference in the title shouldn't require much clarification, but let me just give you a brief reminder that a week can be a very long time in international politics.

Less than a week ago, George W. Bush gave a speech to Knesset during his tour of the Middle-East (the main purpose of the tour was to beg for more Saudi oil production, a request that was rebuffed). Bush made controversial remarks that caused quite an uproar.

Bush's appeasement malarkey

    WHEN HE hinted to the Israeli Knesset this week that Barack Obama was an appeaser for being willing to talk to Iran, President Bush broke an unwritten rule against partisan politicking on foreign shores. He also displayed confusion about his own policies - and about the cause of his calamitous foreign policy failures.

        [...]

    "Some seem to believe," Bush told the Knesset, "that we should negotiate with the terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along." He was comparing unnamed appeasers of today to isolationists who thought they could negotiate with Nazi Germany and keep the United States out of World War II. Bush implied that Obama would be just that naive.



Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.
by Oui on Tue Sep 18th, 2018 at 09:26:56 PM EST
Netanyahu to Nasrallah: Want a fight? You'll get 'unimaginable' response | JPost |

If Hezbollah dares confront Israel it will receive an unimaginable blow, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said as Jerusalem's crisis with Moscow over Syria's downing of a Russian plane triggered an unusual "war of words" with terrorist leader Hassan Nasrallah.

Speaking on Thursday at a Bible study group that he holds a several times a year at his residence, Netanyahu referred to comments Nasrallah made earlier in the day that Hezbollah already has the precision missiles Israel is trying to prevent Iran from transferring via Syria.

"I heard the words that came from the direction of Hezbollah, and they came from the same person who said after [the Second Lebanon War in] 2006 that if he knew what Israel's response would have been to the kidnapping of our soldiers [Ehud Goldwasser and Eldad Regev], he would have considered twice whether to do so. So today I recommend he think not twice, but 20 times, because if he confronts us, he will get a blow that he cannot even imagine."

Nasrallah claimed on Thursday that the balance of power between the Lebanese Shi'ite terrorist group and Israel has "changed," and that the group has accurate missiles that would be used in the next conflict.

Syria releases footage of Latakia airstrike destruction  
Senior official: Israel and Russia will improve coordination mechanism
Rejecting Purim Spiel, Putin Tells Netanyahu to Stop Dwelling on Biblical Times

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Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.

by Oui on Sat Sep 22nd, 2018 at 04:12:07 AM EST


Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.
by Oui on Mon Sep 24th, 2018 at 04:19:39 PM EST


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