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by fjallstrom Thu Dec 12th, 2019 at 10:17:09 AM EST
Election day! Vote! GOTV! Make sure votes are counted! All the fun and spectacle of democracy!
Or just comment from afar. That works too.
Frontpaged by Colman from behind the sofa
But the biggest noise doesn't always reflect a majority.
That has been the major reason why I've tended to pay any attention to the polls which have a bias towards a Tory/leave status quo. With a lowly contracting active electorate, the polls tend to go with what they know, people who've voted regularly before and can be relied upon to do so again. A selection process which entirely misses certain demographics who can be peruaded to vote IF it will make a difference to them.
That's what Labour have done. And the polls can't/won't see it. keep to the Fen Causeway
#Israel voiced worry about the #UKElection on Thursday, describing the possible rise of the @UKLabour Party under Jeremy Corbyn as a threat to bilateral ties and alarming for British #Jews.[_link]— The Jerusalem Post (@Jerusalem_Post) December 12, 2019
#Israel voiced worry about the #UKElection on Thursday, describing the possible rise of the @UKLabour Party under Jeremy Corbyn as a threat to bilateral ties and alarming for British #Jews.[_link]
Related reading ...
Xenophobia, Israel, Alt-right and the Jewish Question 'Sapere aude'
Be afraid, be very afraid. Things are going to slide, slide in all directions Won't be nothing, nothing you can measure anymore L. Cohen
Unfortunately there's no oven in which to cook Brexit.
It's DIY time, folks! Things are going to slide, slide in all directions Won't be nothing, nothing you can measure anymore L. Cohen
This is why Johnson's Brexit will be a raw deal.
<back into the depths of the fridge> Things are going to slide, slide in all directions Won't be nothing, nothing you can measure anymore L. Cohen
"It's Happening," Declares Jeremy Corbyn as Early UK Election Reports Suggest "Longest Queues Ever"
And the youngs?
"Many of the voters out this morning have said the lines are 'full of young people,'" Metro noted.
They are voting? She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
But it ain't over till it's over.
I imagine beer will be taken later just to calm my nerves keep to the Fen Causeway
Red Leg Brewing Co. will break ground Friday on a new $8 million brewery, food and event complex near the west end of Garden of the Gods Road in Colorado Springs.
The 14,000-square-foot facility will include a taproom with panoramic rooftop deck, an outdoor food court with eight vendors, and an outdoor community event center that will be the "first of its kind" in the city, according to a statement from brewery founder and president Todd Baldwin.
Big queue of 100+ people ahead of me at the polling station in marginal BatterseaThere's 50 odd people behind me too#GE2019 🗳 pic.twitter.com/TWNcIsAxEz— Steven Swinford (@Steven_Swinford) December 12, 2019
Big queue of 100+ people ahead of me at the polling station in marginal BatterseaThere's 50 odd people behind me too#GE2019 🗳 pic.twitter.com/TWNcIsAxEz
It's happening. We can do this.#VoteLabour [_link]— Jeremy Corbyn - Vote today 🌹 (@jeremycorbyn) December 12, 2019
It's happening. We can do this.#VoteLabour [_link]
Most important this decade, how fitting!
You will never see another full moon in this decade again 🌚🌚 [_link]— Metro (@MetroUK) December 12, 2019
You will never see another full moon in this decade again 🌚🌚 [_link]
If Johnson wins with a small majority, will he feel the need to have a further referendum? Or is his campaign a clear enough signal that supporting him means supporting Brexit? Presumably it will be harder for Remain MPs in the Conservative Party to sustain their argument after the election.
If Corbyn wins, I would assume that a Brexit referendum would be required, due to his fence-sitting...
Corbyn will probably revert to being a semi detached member of the customss union which will be voted down at the referendum.
Fence sitting is a loaded term. He didn't create this mess, Cameron did. He didn't wreck May's deal in Parliament, the ERG and Boris did that. It would be his job to take a hopelessly divided country and create a resolution that unites us. He cannot do that without the specific consent of the British public; a referendum got us here, it will take one to get us out.
He sees himself as the refereee here, favouring neither side. So he'll negotiate a deal in good faith and then put it for approval to the UK public. In good faith. I really don't see what's difficult about that position. keep to the Fen Causeway
Hearing London is looking 'very difficult' for the ToriesTold Tory activists from all over capital - including some from marginal Chingford - were pulled into Chipping Barnet & Putney this afternoonThe phrase 'a majority of one is still a majority' is doing the rounds— Steven Swinford (@Steven_Swinford) December 12, 2019
Hearing London is looking 'very difficult' for the ToriesTold Tory activists from all over capital - including some from marginal Chingford - were pulled into Chipping Barnet & Putney this afternoonThe phrase 'a majority of one is still a majority' is doing the rounds
This is #Salford and #Eccles I think.#VoteTactically .[_link]— Stuart Budd 🇬🇧 🇪🇺 #UniteToRemain #FBPE (@StuartBudd1) December 12, 2019
This is #Salford and #Eccles I think.#VoteTactically .[_link]
Out campaigning in South Ruislip! Polls close at 10pm - vote Conservative to #GetBrexitDone 🇬🇧 pic.twitter.com/BqUooEbSuF— Boris Johnson (@BorisJohnson) December 12, 2019
Out campaigning in South Ruislip! Polls close at 10pm - vote Conservative to #GetBrexitDone 🇬🇧 pic.twitter.com/BqUooEbSuF
Leave US with one hour of hope for a surprise! 💫 'Sapere aude'
Conservatives: 368 Labour: 191 SNP: 55 Liberal Democrats: 13 Plaid Cymru: 3 Greens: 1 Brexit party: 0 Others: 22
Labour: 191
SNP: 55
Liberal Democrats: 13
Plaid Cymru: 3
Greens: 1
Brexit party: 0
Others: 22
Anyway, that it for me. I see no point in staying up and watch the Hindenburg burn keep to the Fen Causeway
Although I have to say I find the poll very hard to believe. Even in rural areas there was fierce disgust with this version of the Tories.
But they can't just fix the result to order. Can they?
But now California is a Democratic Party stronghold so things do change. She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
None of the preceding polls were estimating a Tory win of this scale. And those polls were famously under-counting the youth vote.
The youth vote turned out in huge numbers. Turnout in general was much higher than usual - the highest in living memory in many locations - and that traditionally favours Labour.
There was significant and organised anti-Tory tactical voting, with candidates standing down and endorsing the other party in a number of seats. This has never happened before in an election.
A significant proportion of the Tory base is disgusted with Johnson. Some Tory stalwarts were actually encouraging voters to vote for a different party - including Labour in a few cases.
But Johnson - who ran an appallingly inept campaign - somehow managed to turn all of that around and win an extra fifty seats, presumably relying on working class Leave voters.
Even allowing for flagrant BBC and print media bias, that seems unlikely.
We will have to wait for the votes to be counted. She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
It's a fair system. Paper ballots and there are plenty of people from all the parties to make sure there's no hanky-panky She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
In theory ballots are numbered to guarantee this doesn't happen, but in practice I don't think the numbers are checked unless there's a good reason to check them.
(Other reasons to move early: devolution means Scotland remains social democratic, and doesn't suffer so much from Tory austerity. Of course, the hard-right Tories want to reverse that...)
I promised @UKLabour would run the biggest people powered campaign our country has ever seen.And you, our members and supporters, have done just that.You're the heart of our party, and you have campaigned tirelessly to win so we can a build a fairer country.I thank you all. pic.twitter.com/Pic0pw9FCU— Jeremy Corbyn | Vote today 🌹 (@jeremycorbyn) December 12, 2019
I promised @UKLabour would run the biggest people powered campaign our country has ever seen.And you, our members and supporters, have done just that.You're the heart of our party, and you have campaigned tirelessly to win so we can a build a fairer country.I thank you all. pic.twitter.com/Pic0pw9FCU
And the rest of Europe can get on with their lives.
Remarkably the one aspect of the "future relationship" which has already been agreed as part of that Withdrawal Agreement is that there will be no customs border on the Island of Ireland which means the UK will have to administer one in the Irish Sea once the transition period is over - unless the UK does a U-turn and stays within the CUSM either temporarily or permanently. Let us presume Boris and the ERG stick to their guns and rule out this option.
From an Irish perspective this is a least worse option. East West trade between Ireland and the UK will be effected, but not north south within Ireland. Any "border down the Irish sea" will discredit the DUP when it happens as they will be seen to have brought an unwanted Brexit upon an unwilling people and caused a rift between Britain and N. Ireland to have opened up.
But that is for the next election to clarify. If a solid Boris majority is confirmed and Boris gets his deal through, N. Ireland Unionists are going to feel betrayed by Boris - and screwed by the DUP - and will feel they have no where to turn. Their initial reaction will probably be to bury their heads in the sand and pretend nothing is happening, but my guess is that future historians will regard Brexit and this election as a watershed and a milestone on the road to a united Ireland in perhaps a decade from now.
But its going to be a difficult road... Index of Frank's Diaries
Johnson's UK will be perfectly happy to become an outright enemy of the EU. Expect actual skirmishes over territorial waters and Gibraltar, political name-calling, non-cooperation, and continuous point scoring.
The fact that much of the population will be living in shocking poverty and outright violent oppression will be incidental.
This won't be business as usual. This will be more like Franco's Spain or Hitler's Germany, but without the occasional competence.
She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
As many as 65 seats are considered "too close to call" by the exit poll
Belfast Telly | If true, General Election exit poll disastrous for DUP
Such a comfortable majority would give the party zero influence to stop Boris Johnson's 'Brexit betrayal'. The DUP's only hope of stopping the deal was if it held the balance of power in a hung Parliament. ... It doesn't matter how the DUP fares in Northern Ireland constituencies. Even if it holds onto all its 10 seats and wins North Down, the days of wielding the levers of power at Westminster are over.
I sure hope the votes are hand counted in public and that the handling of ballots and postal ballots are secure enough to prevent any fraud.
Sinn Fein's John Finucane beat DUP's Westminster leader Nigel Dodds in North Belfast. She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
Buffoonery, lies, shitposting, targeted FB ads, make up a winning formula in a media environment of billionaire newspapers, skewed TV, one-liners on smartphone "news feeds", and permission to lie on social network political ads. The reduction of complexity to bone-headed simplicity is colossal. Corbyn's reasonable explanations are of another age.
Now, next stop Brexit crash-out, and fuck the gammons who voted Tory. They'll still be shouting they were right even as what's left of their country is plundered. In fact, there'll be even more resentment under the surface, easy to exploit in a fascist drift.
US beware: this result is also a victory for Trumpian populism. It may come naturally to Bozza, but his politics is Trump-inspired. Things are going to slide, slide in all directions Won't be nothing, nothing you can measure anymore L. Cohen
Gone full circle from the Enlightenment ... the Buffoon in the Colonies is now King George, taxes are being scrapped just south of Boston ... and leading an imperium across the globe. Did 1917 ever happen?
Congratulations to Boris Johnson on his great WIN! Britain and the United States will now be free to strike a massive new Trade Deal after BREXIT. This deal has the potential to be far bigger and more lucrative than any deal that could be made with the E.U. Celebrate Boris!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 13, 2019
Congratulations to Boris Johnson on his great WIN! Britain and the United States will now be free to strike a massive new Trade Deal after BREXIT. This deal has the potential to be far bigger and more lucrative than any deal that could be made with the E.U. Celebrate Boris!
"The Brink": Right-wing plan to ruin the World starting with the EU Signs of Fascism in a Post-Democratic State 'Sapere aude'
Corbyn was never in with a chance. Too much of the hard wordses and thinky things. Bet he finks he's cleverer than us. Creep.
How optimism is confronted by hard reality minutes later ...
20 minutes left! Every vote counts. Don't miss out. #VoteLibDem to stay in the EU & build a better, brighter future 👉[_link] pic.twitter.com/EnNQSzSHEY— Liberal Democrats (@LibDems) December 12, 2019
20 minutes left! Every vote counts. Don't miss out. #VoteLibDem to stay in the EU & build a better, brighter future 👉[_link] pic.twitter.com/EnNQSzSHEY
Why Liberal Democrats didn't vote for their own party in GE2015 'Sapere aude'
LIVE NOW - press statement [_link]— Charles Michel (@eucopresident) December 13, 2019
LIVE NOW - press statement [_link]
The moment it's confirmed DUP deputy leader Nigel Dodds has lost the North Belfast seat he has held since 2001. Sinn Féin's John Finucane is the new MP - the first time a non-unionist has been elected member of parliament for North Belfast. #GE19 @irish_news pic.twitter.com/v30eA7KG9l— Brendan Hughes (@brendanhughes64) December 13, 2019
The moment it's confirmed DUP deputy leader Nigel Dodds has lost the North Belfast seat he has held since 2001. Sinn Féin's John Finucane is the new MP - the first time a non-unionist has been elected member of parliament for North Belfast. #GE19 @irish_news pic.twitter.com/v30eA7KG9l
She may not have been at the election count, but Green Party leader @ClareBaileyGPNI received a special thanks for her 'enormous courage and political generosity' from new MP @ClaireHanna after standing aside to bolster the pro-Remain vote in South Belfast.#GE19 @irish_news pic.twitter.com/UXZyVOI2tP— Brendan Hughes (@brendanhughes64) December 13, 2019
She may not have been at the election count, but Green Party leader @ClareBaileyGPNI received a special thanks for her 'enormous courage and political generosity' from new MP @ClaireHanna after standing aside to bolster the pro-Remain vote in South Belfast.#GE19 @irish_news pic.twitter.com/UXZyVOI2tP
1) brexit became a huge deal ("OVEN READY!!!"), causing labour to bleed to three parties: the tories (to an extent, but not that much, there's still enough residual hate for them in the relevant areas to hope for the future), the brexit party (ersatz tories without the baggage) and the liberal democrats (remoaner central). because . johnson actually having a deal he could pass off as his own and meaningfully distinct from may's was a huge boon to him here, so thanks EU for that. you fuckers. the character assassination of jeremy corbyn was much more advanced at this stage, with the antisemitism stuff being a part of this. continual, universal negative coverage for four years saw his popularity ratings steadily drop, and the constant internal struggles in the party re: brexit position was extremely costly for his image as a stalwart champion of righteous causes corbyn speaks very well to a relatively small group of voters: people like us, who are politically aware and who have been homeless for decades. apart from that, he's not that effective as a personal campaigner, and once the press and the tories (but i repeat myself) figured out how to put him in positions where he couldn't deploy his strengths (e.g. he actually knows what he's saying and why), his weaknesses (he's not quick on his feet, and he's tied to positions in which he doesn't believe) became apparent. basically, brexit turned into a culture war thing and a centre/periphery conflict. those always benefit the class with more cohesion, which in britain (and the west in general) is the ruling class
and this from Richard Seymour, from before the election and in an otherwise classical piece of Zwangsoptimismus.
I would guess that the calculation is roughly as follows. The Tory vote, as long as they keep promising to deliver Brexit, is secure. They supporters of Brexit have already shown that they don't mind being lied to, egregiously, because they assume that all politicians are liars anyway. Ironically, the only people who really suffer from Tory lies are Labour. Labour suffers in the direct sense that just enough people might believe the lies if they are smears or scaremongering. And while the Tories actively benefit from the defensive cynicism of some voters, their fear of being let down, Labour needs to cut through that. The more the infosphere is flooded with blatant and egregious misrepresentations, the more on guard some voters will be over anyone making a big political offer. Above all, confusion favours those wielding simple answers. If everyone's lying, if all politicians are untrustworthy, there is nonetheless one thing all voters firmly believe: Johnson is committed to delivering Brexit. That message, amid the swirl of deceits, has been hammered home with robotic insistence. Thus, they teach people to desire one simple thing, one paltry concession to a nebulous popular will.
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