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Impeachment gets real

by ARGeezer Fri Jan 17th, 2020 at 08:46:26 AM EST

Until yesterday it seemed likely that the best possible outcome of Trump's impeachment would be that the evidence would be presented and widely known and that this might make his reelection less likely. That the Senate would convict seemed very unlikely. The question was whether the Senate would even hear from witnesses, other than those already deposed by the House Intelligence Commitee.

The two part interview of Lev Parnas by Rachael Maddow, aired Wednesday and Thursday night has had impact. Parnas revealed that Jay Sekulow from the White House Office of Counsel, who was presented as one of  President Trump's Trump's defenders in the Senate proceeding, had reluctantly directed Parnas in some of his endeavors for Rudy Guiliani in Ukraine. This likely presents a conflict of interest for Sekulow. This is likely a problem for Trump, as he wants an attorney he can trust - a mouthpiece.

Parnas also stated that John Dowd, formerly a legal adviser to Trump in the Mueller probe, had tried to convince him to be a fall guy when he came to 'help' Parnas after Parnas was arrested in the fall. Parnas fired him on the spot. Parnas claimed that his motive for going public while under federal indictment was that he feared what William Barr, Attorney General, and Barr's Justice Department might do to him more than he feared conviction under existing charges. Parnas also implicated Barr in the Ukraine affair.

Already, three Republican Senators, Mitt Romney, Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins, have indicated that they favor calling additional witnesses. Even if there are no more Republican Senators forthcoming, this might result in a tie vote which Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts could break, possibly in favor of additional witnesses. John Cornyn of Texas has noted that the Senate is the jury and should not be deciding how the trial is conducted. Michael Bennett of Colorado has been critical of Trump over withholding funds illegally, per the General Accounting Office memo, and in violation of his oath to faithfully execute the laws of the nation.

I suspect that the dam has broken and that many more may sign on to having a full and fair impeachment trial. This inherently brings into play the ambitions of some Senators to be the next Republican Presidential Nominee. First Trump has to go. In situations like this Senators find safety in numbers - herd instinct. It looks like the herd is getting spooked.

Interesting times. Stay tuned.


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Sorry for the lack of links. It is very late. Google any of the names involved and you will find plenty of substantiation.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Fri Jan 17th, 2020 at 08:48:04 AM EST
For the same reason of fall elections, how many DemoRats will move to the Trump side? The Senate trial will be over as soon as Trump tweets BIG time or unveils an affair, a decisive foreign affair that is. He is a bully, as long as no one stands up, he will be king, Caesar and tyrant of the "Free World".

See how easily Europe folded!

Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.

by Oui on Fri Jan 17th, 2020 at 10:42:38 AM EST
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So far I have seen no statements from Democratic Senators that they plan to oppose impeachment. The caucus seems united on this. Every Representative voted for the Impeachment Resolution save Tulsi Gabbard, who voted present. There is no sign Gabbard's vote has done her campaign any good.

I do not believe in 'American Exceptionalism', but neither is there any sign that a majority want Trump as President for Life, as he dreams of being. I await new polls that reflect the recent developments.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Fri Jan 17th, 2020 at 05:29:14 PM EST
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Impeachment Vote: Three Democrats Cross Party Lines to Vote No

Tulsi Gabbard served in Iraq and Kuwait - Proud To Serve.

Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.

by Oui on Fri Jan 17th, 2020 at 05:57:57 PM EST
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US Congress impeaches self, 19 Dec - present
Still running until programmatic close of business

Then I'm going to open Vol II until I'm banned by the proprietors.

by Cat on Fri Jan 17th, 2020 at 07:09:47 PM EST
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Clinton prosecutor Ken Starr joins Trump impeachment team

Merely naming him, Trump loads a lot of guilt on himself.

More ...

Trump defense team for impeachment trial to include Ken Starr, Alan Dershowitz

Befriended Epstein ... died in prison: Jeffrey Epstein lawyer Alan Dershowitz hopes to use N.Y. Times mystery man to help his case

Moralist Ken Starr Explains His Help For Rich Pervert Jeffrey Epstein

Some team!!

Key words | blue dress | Cubana | Tripp | Starr | Arafat | Foster | Whitewater |

Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.

by Oui on Fri Jan 17th, 2020 at 05:49:50 PM EST
A propos of Ken Starr, remember her?
by Bernard on Sun Jan 19th, 2020 at 07:57:17 AM EST
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Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.
by Oui on Sun Jan 19th, 2020 at 10:36:32 AM EST
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by Cat on Mon Jan 20th, 2020 at 10:57:17 PM EST

High Crimes Without Law

    Responding to Laurence Tribe & Joshua Matz, To End a Presidency (2018)
    Response by Nikolas Bowie

Dismiss The Articles of Impeachment

Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.

by Oui on Tue Jan 21st, 2020 at 09:33:08 PM EST
Translation: "I'm being paid to have a different opinion now, and I'm a big ol' whore."
by rifek on Sat Jan 25th, 2020 at 11:48:02 PM EST
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All amendments handed in by Democrats were defeated along party lines.

Before the last vote, McConnell addressed Chief Justice John Roberts thanking him for his patience.  

"Comes with the job," Roberts replied.

Years 2000-2020: two decades the American Century - MAGA with Bush, Obama, Trump pushing the Neocon agenda.

A crook in the White House who can't be impeached because of a corrupt U.S. Congress, its majority chosen and a loaded U.S. Supreme Court covers all three branches of Government. Overriding the intended Separation of Powers written into the Constitution by the Founding Fathers.

An authoritarian state bought by oligarchs has been formed.

The Causes for Which a President Can Be Impeached

THE END OF TIMES

PS Criminal charges in Utah

Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.

by Oui on Wed Jan 22nd, 2020 at 07:45:48 AM EST
This is how republics die. Ours has been on life support at least since 1980. Yet, amazingly, it has been able to walk, talk and make war like any normal government. We have, in effect, been governed by a cabal of pirates. They are rivalrous but do agree that the looting must continue.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Jan 22nd, 2020 at 05:24:30 PM EST
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A lot of hype in that tweet over the FOIA doc dump. For one, nothing legibles occurs until Aug, after 2019-2020 budget enacted--not The Phone Call. Second, GAO report specifically criticizes OMB's footnotes [!] and OMB correspondence disagreeing with GOA determination on "permissible policy" for temporarily withholding. Finally, AMERICAN OVERSIGHT's heavily redacted email collection--if miraculously declassified--might expose the "president's policy" in re: transactions with Ukraine offices. So what? The arg for conviction and examination of corruption returns to Ukraine institutions and US politicians who support them. uh oh.
by Cat on Wed Jan 22nd, 2020 at 05:33:43 PM EST
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Heard just minutes ago, (D) "manager" Rep. Jason Crow reference that FOIA doc dump. What luck. Crow infers that email redactions disguise the "real reason" for withholding obligated funds. < wipes tears > Also, OMB footnotes cited by GAO report disguise the "real reason" for withholding obligated funds.

## Misplaced precision

What was the actual result of withholding obligated funds?

by Cat on Wed Jan 22nd, 2020 at 10:24:18 PM EST
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"Manager" Rep. Jason Crow supplements address to the chamber with file VoD of Amb. Taylor testimony about his combat experience. < wipes tears >
by Cat on Wed Jan 22nd, 2020 at 10:26:11 PM EST
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I quit. I refuse to listen another minute to either "manager" group reciting their Trial Memoranda.
by Cat on Wed Jan 22nd, 2020 at 10:30:40 PM EST
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press corpse reporting
Democrats argued that her removal opened the door to pressuring Ukraine to investigate Biden and his son, Hunter Biden, who worked for a Ukraine gas company.
[...]
Rep. Jason Crow, a former Army Ranger, focused on the suspension of military aid for Ukraine while at war with Russia. [INSERT BILL TAYLOR WWII MEMOIR CLIP]

"Ukrainian soldiers were manning the front lines against Russian-backed forces illegally occupying their country," said Crow, D-Colo.

Rep. Val Demings, D-Fla., [CAT EXITS WEBCAST] described how White House officials dangled the opportunity for Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky to visit the White House - if he announced investigations against the Bidens.

by Cat on Thu Jan 23rd, 2020 at 01:40:04 PM EST
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Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.
by Oui on Thu Jan 23rd, 2020 at 02:55:28 AM EST
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Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.
by Oui on Fri Jan 24th, 2020 at 11:39:41 AM EST


Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.
by Oui on Fri Jan 24th, 2020 at 11:49:13 PM EST


Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.
by Oui on Sat Jan 25th, 2020 at 06:58:21 PM EST
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Capone had the excuse of tertiary syphilis.
by rifek on Sat Jan 25th, 2020 at 11:55:04 PM EST
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Smirk-worthy. tbh, I enjoy these interruptions in public civility "due to technical difficulty". My all time favorite was a brawl, or  mêlée--that's how some anglophone press ahh characterized the event--among in S. Korea's congress that circulated on Youtube. It forget the precise year, an Obama term. Anyhoo. The "elite" are human, it can now be revealed! again and again and ...

by Cat on Sun Jan 26th, 2020 at 05:55:48 PM EST
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Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.
by Oui on Mon Jan 27th, 2020 at 09:25:45 PM EST
At the very least McConnell has not been able,(yet), to spike the ball by gathering 51 Republican Senators to avoid even considering additional witnesses and documents. We should know for certain by the recess on Friday, Jan 31. Certainly should.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Jan 30th, 2020 at 08:03:19 AM EST


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