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Iran Hostilities: Retaliation Missiles Launched [Update]

by Oui Mon Jan 6th, 2020 at 03:13:32 PM EST

The cowboy diplomacy that has been part of the Republican foreign policy "strategy" will put a strain on the US-EU relations and all other alliances with America. There is really no surprise in the events culminating in war talk and military attacks just short of a declaration of war between the United States and the Islamic Republic of Iran. After shredding the JCPOA treaty, the US has returned to its 40 years of war on Iran with the harshest of economic sanctions.

Where President George W. Bush was moderated by just a few wiser guys than he himself was, although VP Dick Cheney, surrounded by a Neocon cabal, took the reins more than once. The invasion and occupation of Iraq was a ugly turning point for the well being in ME and a tricky balance between Sunni and Shia in the region. Two autocrats with great influence in the region, Egypt's president Mubarak and the Saudi Wahhabist ruler King Abdullah both strongly opposed the impending war. They clearly warned it would open a Pandora's Box with an uncertain outcome. They were right, the Shia majority would lead in the aftermath and once democratisering would gain a foothold, would be linked to its powerful neighbor Iran.

The Neocons had always set their sight on neighbouring states of Israel, so Lebanon, Libya and Syria would follow.

More below the fold ...


The greatest nemesis is of course the Islamic Republic of Iran after the Western puppet the Shah was purged in 1979. For all 40 years, the US have fought Iran through proxy warfare. See my earlier comment - here.

Some historical events from the end of WWII.

Trump is wrong over Iran, but Europe can't afford to divorce the US | The Guardian - May 2018 |

In 2003 a US-led war in the Middle East fractured western unity and divided the European family. It was a trauma of historic proportions, a watershed in some ways comparable to the 1956 Suez crisis. With Donald Trump's decision on Iran, we may be on the verge of another such moment. On the surface, things may not look as bad as they did in early 2003. At this point, US military action against Iran is a worst-case hypothesis - not a plan. No 180,000-strong force is being built up near Iranian territory. Nor are Europeans split into two camps. In this current crisis, and despite Brexit, Europeans look like they're sticking together.

Trump's decision is not only extraordinarily brutal, it affects a project whose origins are found in a European initiative taken in the autumn of 2003, when the UK, France and Germany sent their foreign ministers to Tehran for talks: that project was aimed at limiting and controlling Iran's nuclear programme through peaceful means. It took 12 years of international diplomacy, in which Europe played an important role, to reach the nuclear deal that Trump has now decided to tear up.  

The MEMRI source is one I seldom use ...

Brexit, the EU and the Iran nuclear deal | MEMRI - April 2019 |

The multilateral deal, signed in July 2015 between the Islamic Republic of Iran on the one hand and the United States, Britain, France, Germany, China and Russia on the other after marathon negotiations, took a severe blow in May last year, when US President Donald Trump unilaterally pulled his country out of the accord and subsequently reinstated comprehensive nuclear sanctions against Iran. Unless Article 50 is revoked, Brexit will probably affect Britain's commitment to the JCPOA and hurt European efforts, spearheaded by Germany, France and Britain (E3), to save the deal from collapsing. This is for political and economic factors, lying inside and outside of the UK.

Internally, an all-out execution of Brexit, including a "no deal" or hard divorce, that would satisfy "leave" campaigners, will likely push British politics to the right and empower the more hard-line Conservatives in parliament -- not least those from the so-called European Research Group (ERG) -- who are sympathetic to the Trump administration. This would spell trouble for Tehran and might encourage London to toe Washington's line on the JCPOA, especially if British Eurosceptics in power anticipate another victory for Trump in the 2020 US presidential elections, a scenario that has gained traction in the wake of the largely exonerating Mueller Report.

The Iranian Effect on Europe and Brexit | Carnegie Europe - July 2019 |

The recent standoff between the UK and Iran is a case in point. London was immersed in the contest to succeed Theresa May as Conservative leader and UK prime minister when, much to the delight of U.S. President Donald Trump's administration, British forces on July 4 seized an Iranian tanker that was allegedly carrying oil to Syria in breach of U.S. sanctions. In retaliation, two weeks later, Iran seized a British-flagged tanker in the Strait of Hormuz.

This is not a simple bilateral spat between London and Tehran. It is a dispute that has exposed three weaknesses in British, European, and transatlantic policies. It is hard to see the UK's new prime minister, Boris Johnson, or the new European Commission president, Ursula von der Leyen, capable of overcoming these weaknesses.

The first is Britain's delusions about Brexit. Too often, Johnson has said his country would be far better off outside the EU. Yet on July 22, outgoing UK Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt asked the Europeans (not the Americans or NATO) to lead a new maritime alliance to protect shipping in the Strait of Hormuz. How ironic--and a day before Johnson, who has promised to take Britain out of the EU with or without a deal, was elected by Conservative Party members to succeed May. The British plea betrayed panic and a lack of strategic planning ...

After enjoying his millionaires holiday in the Caribbean ...

Johnson Expresses Support for Trump's America

Boris Johnson: Qassem Suleimani was threat to all our interests | The Guardian |

Boris Johnson has said that assassinated Iranian general Qassem Suleimani was "a threat to all our interests", and that while "we will not lament his death" he called for de-escalation from all sides.

The prime minister spoke to the US president, Donald Trump, on Sunday after the US drone strike on Iran's top military leader on Friday.

Johnson said he would be speaking to Iraq "to support peace and stability" after its parliament called for the expulsion of foreign troops, including British soldiers working against Islamic State (Isis).

"General Qassem Suleimani posed a threat to all our interests and was responsible for a pattern of disruptive, destabilising behaviour in the region," Johnson said.

"Given the leading role he has played in actions that have led to the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians and western personnel, we will not lament his death.

"It is clear however that all calls for retaliation or reprisals will simply lead to more violence in the region and they are in no one's interest."

No Sir! Bush and Blair are responsible for one million deaths by the invasion and occupation of Iraq, framed through lies and propaganda about WMDs. The Iraq population resisted your soldiers, American troops, torture and detention.

Rouhani tells Salih: Blood of commanders will strengthen Iran-Iraq bonds

Does Soleimani's Death Matter? Findings from a 2019 Workshop | Washington Institute |

The Qods Force has not stood idly by while Khamenei placed so many of his eggs in Soleimani's basket. The force's new, less-charismatic leader--former deputy commander Esmail Ghaani--intimately knows Soleimani's vision and will likely try to continue it. Similarly, foreign relationships can be picked up to some extent by deputies in each country.

Yet something unique may have been lost with Soleimani's death. The unity of command he was able to achieve might degrade going forward. Operations conducted by the IRGC, Artesh, and Intelligence Ministry could be less well-coordinated, and rivalries may resurface.

Perhaps more significant, the IRGC will likely lose some of the prestige that was over-invested in Soleimani. The face of IRGC expansion in the Middle East is dead, killed as he hurried around the region trying to correct a spiraling sequence of errors. In combination with recent mass protests in Iraq, Lebanon, and Iran itself, the death of Soleimani could be a momentum-breaker for the IRGC's expansionist policies.

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My error, I first thought this would be a reasonable analysis, I was fooled by the name "Washington Institute". Wrong! Michael Knights is a fellow at WINEP!! That of course rings a bell ... Washington Institute for Near East Peace (WINEP), the think-tank affiliate of AIPAC.

WINEP @EuroTrib
WINEP @Tikun Olam
NY Mayor Blasio: 'A Lobby Is A Night Flower'
House of Saud - US Alliance Has Broken the Middle East

Someone pointed me to an opinion piece in the NYT authored by Tom Friedman ... I didn't expect much from his "analysis" and he didn't let me down.

One group gives Soleimani a hero status as the feared IRCG commander, now I we have two pieces where it's written Soleimani erred and made wrong judgements. If the latter was the case, there would be no reason to take the gamble and assassinate him on Iraq sovereign soil. All in all, it was quite a stupid action and the repercussions will be seen and felt in the new decade of the 20s. Just insane and quite illegal.

    The US assassination of the top Iranian commander along with Muhandis, the deputy head of Iraq's anti-terror Popular Mobilization Units, and eight others has sent shock waves across the world.

    It has forged greater unity in the region against US interventionism, with insistent calls for revenge being echoed across the Muslim world. Both Soleimani and Muhandis played a key role in defeating Daesh which at its peak, threatened a complete take-over of Iraq and Syria.

    Gen. Soleimani's popularity transcends geographical boundaries, and many people across the Middle East and beyond regard him as the figurehead in defeating Daesh and other Takfiri groups.

Related reading ...

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Syria Expendable In Joint US-Israel ME Power Schemes by Oui @EuroTrib on Dec. 28, 2013
The US is gearing up for an attack on Iran by Alexander @EuroTrib on Jan. 12, 2007
NSC Chief Hadley asked Italy for Syria Replacement Name by susanhu @EuroTrib on Oct. 23, 2005

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Trump reiterates threat to target Iranian cultural sites | CNN |

Trump a rogue leader ... Taliban - Islamic State - Al Qaeda - US Armed Forces?
U.S. Congress needs to get RID of him!

World-famous Buddhas of Bamiyan resurrected in Afghanistan

Al Qaeda Destroys Timbuktu Shrines, Ancient City's Spirit

Here Are the Ancient Sites ISIS Has Damaged and Destroyed | National Geographic |

In menacing Iran's cultural sites, Trump threatens to commit 'a war crime'

Holiest sites in Shia Islam

Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.

by Oui on Mon Jan 6th, 2020 at 03:51:41 PM EST
some at a very high level & important to Iran &  the Iranian culture

Don't think of comparing Trump  with Goebbels.

The raids were referred to on both sides as "Baedeker raids", derived from a comment by a German propagandist. Gustav Braun von Stumm [de], a spokesman for the German Foreign Office, is reported to have said on 24 April 1942, "We shall go out and bomb every building in Britain marked with three stars in the Baedeker Guide", a reference to the popular travel guides of that name. Goebbels was furious; keen to brand British attacks as "terror bombing", he was equally keen to designate German efforts as "retaliatory measures". Stumm's off-the-cuff remark "effectively admitted the Germans were targetting cultural and historic targets, just what the German leadership did not want to do, and Goebbels took steps to make sure it did not happen again
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Mon Jan 6th, 2020 at 04:46:22 PM EST
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by Cat on Mon Jan 6th, 2020 at 06:59:53 PM EST
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that don't mean anything. The Sun knows their readership isn't the least bit interested in foreigners unless they're trying to get into the UK illegally and/or have enormous tits

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jan 6th, 2020 at 07:06:15 PM EST
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That's why god created Bloomberg and Basic Principles of War Propaganda No.1-10

U.S. Futures Pare Gain on Iran's Warning of Retaliation (11:45 a.m.)

U.K. Security Council to Meet on Iran (4:34 p.m.)

The U.K.'s National Security Council will meet at 5 p.m. in London, the prime minister's spokesman James Slack said, adding that Boris Johnson told ministers at their weekly meeting on Tuesday morning that efforts are focused on protecting British citizens and their interests. U.K. Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab is in Brussels for talks.

Defence Secretary Ben Wallace will brief lawmakers in Parliament at 3:30 p.m. and will outline diplomatic and military steps the U.K. is taking in response to the crisis. Slack refused to comment on any legal advice Johnson's government has received over the killing of Qassem Soleimani.
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Emergency Meeting of Europeans in Brussels (1:33 p.m.)
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Shamkhani Says Iran's Response Will Be 'Historic Nightmare' for U.S. (11:30 a.m.)
"Even if the weakest of these scenarios gains a consensus, the implementation of it can be a historic nightmare for the Americans," Ali Shamkhani, head of Iran's national security council, is cited as saying by the semi-official [!] FARS news agency. "For now, for intelligence reasons, we cannot provide more information to the media," he says.

Iran is assessing 13 scenarios for retaliation, Shamkhani was cited as saying. "The entirety of the resistance forces will retaliate" for Soleimani's killing, he says.

by Cat on Tue Jan 7th, 2020 at 04:22:14 PM EST
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AUMF update in lieu of repeal, developing ...

Pelosi announces war powers vote in attempt to limit Trump on Iran

Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) announced in a letter Sunday that the House will this week "introduce and vote on a War Powers Resolution to limit" President Trump's "military actions regarding Iran."
Dear Democratic Colleague,
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As Members of Congress, our first responsibility is to keep the American people safe.  For this reason, we are concerned that the Administration took this action without the consultation of Congress and without respect for Congress's war powers granted to it by the Constitution.

This week, the House will introduce and vote on a War Powers Resolution to limit the President's military actions regarding Iran.  This resolution is similar to the resolution introduced by Senator Tim Kaine in the Senate.  It reasserts [?] Congress's long-established oversight [?!] responsibilities by mandating that if no further Congressional action is taken, the Administration's military hostilities with regard to Iran cease within 30 [!] days. ...

The big picture: In the letter to Democratic House members, Pelosi thanked her colleagues for their "patriotic leadership" during the Iran crisis as she outlined her plan for the resolution, which will be led by freshman Rep. Elissa Slotkin (D-Mich.), a former CIA and Defense Department analyst specializing in Shia militias.
< wipes tears >

reference
Legislation Sponsored or Cosponsored by Tim Kaine, Saturday, 5 Jan 2020

archived
Tim Kaine Resolution to Stop Hostilities with Iran
THIS IS BIG. The resolution is privileged ...
The Dictator and The Decider
too many people rehearsing elevator pitches
"convoluted 18th Century language"
one provision ahhh chained to another contradicts itself

by Cat on Mon Jan 6th, 2020 at 06:47:56 PM EST
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reference
Legislation Sponsored or Cosponsored by Bernard Sanders, Friday, 4 Jan 2020

archived
faux accompli

by Cat on Mon Jan 6th, 2020 at 07:11:49 PM EST
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"Caring nation crossroad," or Eshu, address

by Cat on Mon Jan 6th, 2020 at 08:00:22 PM EST
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reference
29 U.S. Code § 157. Right of employees as to organization, collective bargaining, etc.

by Cat on Mon Jan 6th, 2020 at 07:26:35 PM EST
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Kaine & Young Introduce Bill To Repeal 1991 & 2002 AUMFs, Formalizing End Of Gulf & Iraq Wars, March 2019
Today, U.S. Senators Tim Kaine (D-VA) and Todd Young (R-IN) introduced a bipartisan bill to repeal the 1991 and 2002 Authorizations for Use of Military Force (AUMF) against Iraq. The legislation will formally end the authorizations for the Gulf and Iraq wars - 28 and 17 years, respectively, after these AUMFs were first passed, reasserting Congress' vital role in not only declaring wars, but in ending them. The repeal of these authorizations also recognizes the strong partnership the United States now has with a sovereign, democratic Iraq.
< wipes tears
"There is no obligation more sobering than considering an authorization for the use of military force, and it is critical that Congress exercise robust oversight [sic] once authorities have been granted delegated. As a young high school student, I enlisted in the Navy mere weeks before the Gulf War began. Now, 28 years later, those war authorities are still active and still in law. This illustrates the level of Congressional failure to perform its Constitutionally mandated oversight role" said Young
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This bill is an effort to prevent the future misuse of the expired [?] Gulf and Iraq War authorizations and strengthen Congressional oversight [sic] over war powers. For years, Kaine has been the leading voice [BWAH!] in Congress raising concerns over the use of military force without congressional authorization.
Congress unlikely to check Trump's power to start war with Iran
because homicidal mania: nothing personal.
by Cat on Tue Jan 7th, 2020 at 08:07:36 PM EST
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Mirror links 'special relationship' to UK foreign policy, twitter TL

Iran 'offers $80m bounty on Donald Trump's head' as Boris Johnson breaks silence on crisis

UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson has finally broken his silence on the mounting crisis in the Middle East amid reports an $80million bounty has been placed on Donald Trump's head by Iran.

The Mirror has reported claims made by news outlet en24 that one US dollar will be put forward for every Iranian in the country by the country's regime, with the total going to whoever killed the US President.

At the same time, the terrorist militia ISIS is now benefiting from the Iranian-led attacks on coalition bases in Iraq.

The US-led international coalition to fight the Islamic State jihadist militia (ISIS) is suspending its operations in Iraq for the time being. This affected both the training of Iraqi security forces and the direct fight against ISIS, the coalition said on Sunday.

A Bundeswehr soldier trains a Kurdish "Peschmnerga" fighter in northern IraqPhoto: picture alliance / dpa

The PM said he will be speaking to Iraq "to support peace and stability" after its parliament called for the expulsion of foreign troops, including British soldiers working against so-called Islamic State.
by Cat on Mon Jan 6th, 2020 at 06:16:43 PM EST
5 Jan LIVE tweets, WaPoo translation

by Cat on Mon Jan 6th, 2020 at 06:23:10 PM EST
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'No decision to leave Iraq'? Pentagon officials contradict each other over `poorly worded' US withdrawal plan sent by `mistake'
by Cat on Tue Jan 7th, 2020 at 01:50:04 AM EST
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APsplainin | 'Honest mistake' sets off alarm about US troops in Iraq
The bungled message started when a draft letter from Marine Brig. Gen. William Seely began circulating on social media.
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It's not entirely clear who leaked the letter. According to [Ch. Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark] Milley, the draft was circulated to key Iraqi officials as part of a coordination process to let them know about the increased helicopter movements. Officials say it was first posted on the website of an Iranian-backed militia group.

"Now it's a kerfuffle," Milley lamented.

APsplainin | Push to oust US troops from Iraq a risky undertaking
"A pullout of U.S. troops could cripple the fight against Islamic State militants and allow the extremists to make a comeback." all around premature victory over ISIS/ISIL/DAESH/al-Qaida-in-the-*

by Cat on Tue Jan 7th, 2020 at 02:14:32 AM EST
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"one US dollar will be put forward for every Iranian"
St. Louis Fed | Gross International Reserves Held by Central Bank for Iran, Islamic Republic of
Updated: Oct 28, 2019, Source: International Monetary Fund
by Cat on Mon Jan 6th, 2020 at 09:21:05 PM EST
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Reply to post in previous diary ...

Re: Designation as Bandit State

Impunity

No institution of the United Nations will or could make such an declaration. The United States of America as self-appointed global sheriff has made sure there is no other national jurisdiction or International Court permitted to try a US military for misdeeds attributed during his service.

Why did Obama pull out the US Forces out of Iraq?

President Obama: U.S. commitment in Iraq, a status of forces agreement (SOFA)

How do the Japanese like the US sailors living in the Okinawa bases?

Okinawa US Military Base: Structural Violence against Women

Even the mercenaries hired for by the Pentagon or CIA for security at al. in Iraq or Afghanistan are freed from any liability. No one is left behind in a foreign country ...

Pakistan -- Did Ray Davis Shoot Two Pakistani Agents?

Iraq - Blackwater mercenaries and Nissour Square massacre

Even a US citizen as civilian residing in England was sped out of the country to avoid being held responsible for a traffic accident causing a death.

Wife of American Diplomat Claims "Diplomatic Immunity", Flees U.K. After Fatal Crash From Driving on Wrong Side of Road

Nicest symbol I am proud to refer to, is of course, the The Hague Invasion Act, passed by U.S. Congress.

The Hague On the Roll - ICJ Ruling

    After the threat to the ICC located in the city of The Hague by John Bolton recently, another top court has ruled against the United States of America. No "Invasion Act" yet conceived to kidnap the judges of the International Court of Justice located in the Peace Palace funded by Andrew Carnegie over 100 years ago.

[Enforcement can only be made possible through the UN Security Council ... veto will keep the Powers getting away scot free - Oui]

In Hindsight: The Security Council and the International Court of Justice

The US Armed Forces and US leaders got off without sanctions for years of torture, detention in Iraq and Afghanistan. Also the drone killings on such a scale with deaths of countless civilians are against human right and constitute war crimes.

In the end, when someone is court-martialed, a president like idiot Trump grants a pardon and fires the commander responsible for a courageous act of justice. In all these cases, it's an International Court of Law which should step in ... the US chickened out and live their military and political lives with impunity.



Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.
by Oui on Mon Jan 6th, 2020 at 06:51:24 PM EST
by Cat on Mon Jan 6th, 2020 at 07:46:27 PM EST
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by Cat on Tue Jan 7th, 2020 at 08:16:14 PM EST
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I think Iran is gonna sit on its hands for a while and see what happens with regard to the US presence in Iraq. If I can see no real long term upside to attacking US soldiers there, I'm sure the Iranians can, however tempting.

It's one thing to be a thorn in their side with proxy attacks, but when your number 2 has been killed so publicly, you don't want to just annoy your enemy; you need to hurt them.

And if you're gonna hurt them, it'd be better if they had to come a long way to get you back than be next door.

But if you're gonna hurt them, by how much will you hurt them? Because there's a lot of steps on the way to an all-out declaration of war. I expect it will be on US soil. That's the only place they hurt.

As to what they'd do, well, the options eem endless. I know what I'd suggest, but I'm not putting that online


keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jan 6th, 2020 at 07:03:04 PM EST
1,000 cuts
by Cat on Mon Jan 6th, 2020 at 07:19:56 PM EST
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'Are we supposed to take out Spiderman and Spongebob?' Iranian cleric mocks US and says Tehran can't strike back at targets of Soleimani's stature because America only has fictional heroes

More seriously, Iran already has a pattern of responding to recent adversary actions:

Fragmentation In 'The Axis Of Resistance' Led To Soleimani's Death

When Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu assassinated the deputy head of the Military Council (the highest authority in the Lebanese Hezbollah [...]), Hajj Imad Mughniyah in Damascus, Syria, Hezbollah could not avenge him until today.

When Trump gave Netanyahu Jerusalem as the "capital of Israel", the "Axis of the Resistance" did not move except by holding television symposia and conferences verbally rejecting the decision.

When President Trump offered the occupied Syrian Golan Heights to Israel and the "Axis of Resistance" did not react, the US President Donald Trump and his team understood that they were opposed by no effective deterrent. The inaction of the Resistance axis emboldened Trump to do what he wants.

And when Israel bombed hundreds of Syrian and Iranian targets in Syria, the "Axis of the Resistance" justified its lack of retaliation by the typical sentence: "We do not want to be dragged along by the timing of the engagement imposed by the enemy," as a senior official in this axis told me.

So Trump might get away with murder -- be it on the Baghdad airport road rather than on the 5th avenue -- and enjoy privileges of "romantic" banditism such as pricking the lousy impeachment, the 2020 election, giving higher oil prices to frackers.  
by das monde on Tue Jan 7th, 2020 at 10:59:40 AM EST
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personally I'm not so dismissive. I think that the Iranians do have a lot of options, but they involve a strike directly on US soil.

You can't prevent the US's abiity to strike back, but this is about honour and prestige. So it doesn't have to be a massive strike like 9/11. Both Trump and the Iranians seem to be working on that basic primate level. So the Iranians have to do something which involves a loss of prestige for Trump, personally. Because that's what he did to them.

the less actual carnage the better in many ways to suggest that a military response would be excessive.

Seriously, I could write a list of things. But I'm not sure the Iranians really think like that.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jan 7th, 2020 at 02:45:49 PM EST
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is a British conceit.

About 82M Iranians have been living despite a blockade ("sanctions") by NATO members for more than two decades. Trump ordered the assassination of several members of Iran's government whose mandate was to defend those 82 millions. Absent defense of further covert and overt aggression led by US, those 82 millions face privations and mortal injuries by NATO alliance.

NATO, EU call on Iran [?!] to avoid `further provocations'

Asked twice by reporters whether any member states condemned the US actions, Stoltenberg stressed their unity and their concern about Iran's behaviour.

"We have recently seen an escalation by Iran, including the strike on a Saudi energy facility, and the shoot-down of an American drone," Stoltenberg said. "We are united in condemning Iran's support of a variety of different terrorist groups," he added.
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two diplomats present at the session confirmed that the two-hour meeting at NATO headquarters went smoothly. According to them, no envoy challenged US State Department and Department of Defense officials, who briefed via video conference, over the merits of Friday's events.

"The safety and security of our personnel is of paramount importance. We keep our force protection measures under constant review."

Think again. What would you have the government of Iran do? Lay down, spread their legs, and think of England?

by Cat on Tue Jan 7th, 2020 at 03:42:29 PM EST
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I'm not sure the suffering of the people of Iran is entirely relevant here. I don't mistake Trumps motives with the "will of the american people" anymore than I'd like people to think that TWBJ represents my opinion on anything.

the leadership of Iran feel affronted and will respond. They're not stupid and so will think carefully about the most effective response. An effective response to Trump must hurt Trump personally. Not physcally so much as humiliate him in front of the US electorate.

Prestige and honour are entirely apropriate descriptions of this.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jan 7th, 2020 at 06:16:57 PM EST
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hmm, yes, feelings.
Nasrallah's full speech: Soleimani's assassination will put an end to US presence in the Middle East, US troops will go home in coffins
Nothing more than feelings.
Trump's threat to bomb Iran `cultural' sites is personal for Iraq War vets in Congress

Which feelings suit your ahh sense of justice appropriate and proportional to offenses committed by US government?

by Cat on Tue Jan 7th, 2020 at 07:09:53 PM EST
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Both sides playing to their base. Trump means it because that's the limit of his thinking. Meanwhile the Iranians are unlikely to consider any reprisal againt US forces in the ME a sufficiently teachable moment. That said, I doubt they'd mind if their proxies killed a few soldiers, but that's not the mission. Not anymore.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jan 7th, 2020 at 08:54:13 PM EST
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O, look. The Irish Times hosting Tom Friedman.
Tehran's overrated military strategist made many political miscalculations
One day they may name a street after President Donald Trump in Tehran. Why? Because Trump just ordered the assassination of possibly the dumbest man in Iran and the most overrated strategist in the Middle East: Maj Gen Qassem Suleimani.

Think of the miscalculations this guy made. In 2015, the US and the major European powers agreed to lift virtually all [?!] their sanctions on Iran, many dating back to 1979, in return for Iran halting its nuclear weapons programme for a mere 15 years but still maintaining the right to have a peaceful nuclear programme. It was a great deal for Iran. Its economy grew by over 12 per cent [?!] the next year. And what did Suleimani do with that windfall?...

by Cat on Tue Jan 7th, 2020 at 03:52:29 PM EST
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But it gets better, or actually worse, for Suleimani. Many of his obituaries say that he led the fight against the Islamic State group in Iraq, in tacit alliance with America. Well, that's true. But what they omit is that Suleimani's, and Iran's, overreaching in Iraq helped to produce the Islamic State group in the first place.
by Cat on Tue Jan 7th, 2020 at 03:55:36 PM EST
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Iran became a true regional power, stretching its influence from the banks of the Mediterranean to the Persian Gulf.

It doesn't occur to him to wonder why it's called the Persian Gulf....

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Tue Jan 7th, 2020 at 04:00:20 PM EST
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No wonder, he's a psychopathic liar.
by Cat on Tue Jan 7th, 2020 at 04:05:15 PM EST
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[Moustache of Understanding Alert]
Note: Exact value of "Understanding" not guaranteed.
by Bernard on Tue Jan 7th, 2020 at 07:08:42 PM EST
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It was Suleimani and his Quds Force pals who pushed Iraq's Shia prime minister, Nouri al-Maliki, to push Sunnis out of the Iraqi government and army, stop paying salaries to Sunni soldiers, kill and arrest large numbers of peaceful Sunni protesters and generally turn Iraq into a Shia-dominated sectarian state. The Islamic State group was the counterreaction.
by Cat on Tue Jan 7th, 2020 at 04:09:00 PM EST
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How ISIL came about is well documented .... the Sunni's were the leadership under Saddam Hussein ... quilty of oppression, murder and torture of the Shia majority. Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi initiated his Sunni terror group while detained in Camp Bucca FOB, a similar prison as Abu Ghraib.

He became a preacher or Sheikh while in an American led  camp with torture and deaths. The tens of thousands prisoners were freed or escaped after attacks by Sunni extremists.

A lot of malarkey to rewrite the invasion, occupation of Iraq by the neo-colonial invaders from the US and UK. The Neocons don't do nation building - was signed CPA.

* Syria Expendable in Joint US-Israel ME Power Schemes (Dec. 2013)

 * Khorasan pledge splits Al-Qaeda (Sept. 2014

* Clinton's 21st Century Statecraft and the Land of Two Rivers

Remember the Jordanian terror master - former detainee of King Hussein - Abu Mu'sab al-Zarqawi ... the ghost leader of AQI in Iraq!

Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.

by Oui on Tue Jan 7th, 2020 at 05:57:06 PM EST
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by Oui on Tue Jan 7th, 2020 at 05:52:13 PM EST
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by Cat on Tue Jan 7th, 2020 at 04:24:48 PM EST
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Iranian ambassador hits out at 'provocative' Times article | The Guardian |

The Iranian ambassador to the UK is to complain formally about a frontpage article in the Times claiming that Iranian generals are prepared to kill British troops in response to the assassination of Qassem Suleimani.

Hamid Baeidinejad said he strongly condemned "the vicious lie and provocative news by the Times today".

He added on Twitter: "I will ask the concerned UK authorities to take swift action to stop such malicious false propaganda in this very sensitive time". The embassy later confirmed it would be writing to the press regulator Ipso to make a formal complaint, as well as sending a letter to the newspaper.

British Press Indulges In Scaremongering



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by Oui on Mon Jan 6th, 2020 at 07:25:38 PM EST
A US censor 'gigs'
"Media Monitoring Services" on behalf of US gov
by Cat on Mon Jan 6th, 2020 at 09:03:43 PM EST
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Millions pack Tehran streets to pay homage to Gen. Soleimani

A huge sea of mourners, streaming from all the adjoining streets in freezing temperatures, descended on the iconic Engelab Square in central Tehran Monday morning before rallying to Azadi Tower in the capital's west.

Chanting "Death to America" and "Death to Israel," they carried portraits of their national hero whose assassination in a US airstrike at Baghdad airport has generated an outpouring of anger and patriotism across Iran and elsewhere, with vociferous calls for revenge.

A correspondent for the Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting (IRIB) said he had not seen such a crowd in 20 years in Tehran, where important occasions usually draw people in millions.

Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei led the prayers over the general's coffin and the remains of his companions at Tehran University, his voice cracking several times with emotion which caused the massive crowd to weep.

Related reading ...

Iran's huge turnout for Soleimani belies US preposterous claims

Crowd larger than Trump's inauguration ... even greater numbers than Obama's -- BIG LOSER - IMPEACH TRUMP!

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by Oui on Mon Jan 6th, 2020 at 07:27:47 PM EST
CONVICT Trump, Round #1

House of odious, more urgent matter,
besides McConnell: Senate has votes to proceed without Democrats in impeachment trial
"We have the votes, once the impeachment trial has begun, to pass a resolution essentially the same, very similar to the 100-0 vote in the Clinton trial"; further confusing Chuck and Nancy-SCOTUS chief justice pro temp

by Cat on Tue Jan 7th, 2020 at 08:24:57 PM EST
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A Sworn Statement or Legal Deposition

Republicans don't want to hear ...



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Germany split on path forward in US-Iran conflict | DW |

Ostpolitik in Iran

Germany has been reluctant to embrace the United States' "maximum pressure" campaign against Iran. Analysts say the current juncture requires more diplomatic resolve than ever.

Since the days of Ostpolitik, a rapprochement strategy with communist East Germany before German reunification in 1990, Germany has practiced close diplomacy with hostile international actors to avoid conflict.

That ethos was the undercurrent of the 2015 nuclear deal with Iran, which promised to lift crippling economic sanctions on Tehran in exchange for it dismantling its nuclear program. Even after President Donald Trump withdrew the United States from the agreement in May 2018, European signatories, most notably Germany and France, continued to explore ways to keep the deal afloat.

That essence of German diplomacy is now being tested in the wake of Friday's US drone strike in Iraq. The attack killed Soleimani, the architect of Iran's regional power strategy, as well as several Iraqi militia leaders.

Iran has already announced it would ignore the uranium enrichment caps outlined in the nuclear deal and promised revenge against the US and its regional partners as hundreds of thousands of Iranian mourners took to the streets.

Iran summons German envoy over 'unrealistic, harmful' claims against Gen. Soleimani | PressTV - Jan. 5, 2020 |
Iran hits back at Germany over accusation of 'destabilizing region' | PressTV - Dec. 31, 2019 |

Related reading ...

Israel Could Launch a Nuclear War from Advanced German-Built Submarines | NI - Sept. 2019 |

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by Oui on Mon Jan 6th, 2020 at 07:48:44 PM EST

Related reading ...

Nuclear Power in the United Arab Emirates - start 2020
Iran Readies Natanz for Enrichment within Limits JCPOA
President Obama to Iran: Buzz off! by Oui @EuroTrib on Sept. 25, 2013
Nuclear Proliferation Middle-East by Oui @BooMan on June 5, 2008

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by Oui on Tue Jan 7th, 2020 at 01:56:46 PM EST
After a hunting party were out and killed a Comanche chief, the group of invaders circled their wagons to protect their loved ones. Any injun that shoots at our women will be shot, no ifs or buts about it. US Christians don't tolerate reprisal ... vengeance is God's. In the New World, our laws will be universally enforced by OUR chosen sheriff. [Moses and his tablets: ⑥ 'thou shalt not kill']

In the 19th Century, historians wrote how the West was won ...

Russell Thornton: American Indian Genocide and Survival: A Populations History Since 1492

What will be the outcome in the 21st Century?

The Last Battle   or   Trump's Last Stand?

A continuing story after Bush II: "You are either with US or the TERRORISTS!"

Europost : As America's Discontent with Bush Grows, Europeans Sigh with Relief | Huff Post - 2007 |

    Now after 3000 military casualties and over 100K Iraqi civilians dead, most of America agrees with Europe. Even hard core republicans are opposing his request to increase troops in Iraq.  Iraq now is not about winning the war but about finding an elegant way out of this troubled country. [Iraq War, total casualties near one million - 2019]

We're moving, moving along towards the promised land ... EUREKA! GOLD!

    DECEIVED ONCE, YOU'RE A FOOL ...
    DECEIVED TWICE, YOU'RE NUTS!

NATO has expanded its sphere of influence into the Gulf States - see Stoltenberg's recent visit to Abu Dhabi and Kuwait. NATO is not a broker for world affairs, that should be the sovereignty of nations. Don't get pulled into a confrontation or war by Gulf Royalties vs the Persian Ayatollahs! The United States and Israel have made a choice in THEIR alliance to keep the war industry and Wall Street booming. The inequality will increase and blood will flow from the poorest amongst us. STOP THE WAR NOW!

NATO says Saudi and Omani attendance at anniversary celebration 'good sign' of progress

Europe's E3 do not fulfil their obligations of the JCPOA treaty with Iran, don't be deceived by Western propaganda.

Expect the worst ... harsh reality of 70 years hostilities in the Middle East : An Eye for An Eye.

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by Oui on Tue Jan 7th, 2020 at 03:17:22 PM EST
[Moses and his tablets: ⑥ 'thou shalt not kill']

The original means, in modern Hebrew, "you shall not commit murder". In Biblical Hebrew, it's probably closer to "you shall not commit manslaughter" (see Numbers, 35:25). This gives Israel a big loophole.

For US "Christians" on the other hand, there is also the Sermon on the Mount, and I don't think there are any loopholes there.

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Tue Jan 7th, 2020 at 03:35:58 PM EST
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Trump ... why not up military spending to $52 trillion in commemoration of the US Embassy hostage crisis? Your voters in new manufacturing jobs would be thankful. @OhioMFG

Trump Administration Blocks Iran's Top Diplomat From Addressing the U.N. Security Council

On Sunday, Iran has summoned the Swiss diplomatic mission in Tehran after a series of tweets from U.S. President Donald Trump threatened to destroy the Islamic Republic's cultural sites if American assets were targeted.

The U.S. President would later brag about spending over US$2 Trillion on military defense, something he said should scare Iran from retaliating.

Iran's Foreign Minister Javad Zarif says President Donald Trump doesn't care about international law and is prepared to commit war crimes - full CNN interview.

There Is No General "Security Exception" in the UNHQ Agreement Act

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by Oui on Tue Jan 7th, 2020 at 08:40:40 PM EST

Former Dutch Defense Minister Jeannine Hennis is now UNSG most important Ambassador to Iraq ... a day ago she said there wil likely be a war ...

* Security Alert -- U.S. Embassy, Baghdad, Iraq, January 3, 2020

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by Oui on Tue Jan 7th, 2020 at 09:16:18 PM EST
Dutch Islamophobe Geert Wilders angered by UN envoy Hennis visit to funeral Irag Shia militia commander assassinated by US drone, ordered by president Trump. #re-election #wagdog



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by Oui on Tue Jan 7th, 2020 at 09:28:40 PM EST
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After the Soleimani assassination, business as usual. Important for the UK - US - NATO to show the world their strong alliance with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, a major investor in US military goods.



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by Oui on Tue Jan 7th, 2020 at 10:11:53 PM EST
Pompeo's wet dream to accomplish anything from assassination of prominent Iranian military commander? Peace propaganda.

It wasn't National Security for imminent attack on Americans ... Trump now claims "retaliation". 😎

One down, 51 attacks to go?

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by Oui on Tue Jan 7th, 2020 at 10:15:18 PM EST
Pompeo tells diplomats not to meet with Iranian opposition groups amid escalating tensions | The Guardian |

Key words | Rudy Giuliani | MEK  | John Bolton | paid lobbyists | Louis Freeh |

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by Oui on Tue Jan 7th, 2020 at 10:45:14 PM EST
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British Forces on High Alert

For fast mobilisation within 48 hrs ... ready for retaliation.

* British military on stand-by to deploy to Gulf 'within 48 hours'

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by Oui on Tue Jan 7th, 2020 at 11:22:48 PM EST
U.S. led coalition temporarly relocates Iraq HQ to Kuwait

* * BREAKING NEWS * *

Iran launched 13 surface-to-surface missiles at Iraq's Ain al-Assad base housing foreign coalition forces.

Al Jazeera News



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Pentagon statement: more than a dozen ballistic missiles fired by Iran at two Iraqi bases.

Iran announced a second wave of missiles in statement from Iranian Guards: this is the beginning of a harsh revenge.

IRGC targets US airbase in western Iraq | PressTV |

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by Oui on Wed Jan 8th, 2020 at 12:29:45 AM EST

National Security Staff gather with President Trump in White House.

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by Oui on Wed Jan 8th, 2020 at 12:55:57 AM EST
Plenty of optics in this retaliation with threats of escalation when the US continues hostilities ... no talk, no diplomacy, just hurling some bombs and missiles at one another.

Three bases were struck by ballistic missiles: Ain al-Asad - Irbil (Kurdish North) - Taji.

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by Oui on Wed Jan 8th, 2020 at 01:28:37 AM EST

Hey Saudi Prince ... doesn't say "Arabian" Gulf now does it!


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by Oui on Wed Jan 8th, 2020 at 01:59:06 AM EST
... and no doubt the Emirates, US base in Kuwait, Saudi military assets may be targeted by ballistic missiles.



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by Oui on Wed Jan 8th, 2020 at 02:21:51 AM EST
Before retiring for the night, POTUS had someone putting this statement forward as his tweet ... de-escalation ... or another surprise in the morning:



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Will cool heads prevail ... or a bit of silence to gather forces / alliances before all hell breaks loose.

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by Oui on Wed Jan 8th, 2020 at 07:28:40 AM EST
Not to Brussels or his European allies ... a pow wow?



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by Oui on Wed Jan 8th, 2020 at 07:56:03 AM EST
Ukrainian airplane crashes near Iran's capital, killing 176
Boeing, like other airline manufacturers, typically assists in crash investigations. However, that effort in this case could be affected by the U.S. sanctions campaign in place on Iran since President Donald Trump unilaterally withdrew from Tehran's nuclear deal with world powers in May 2018 [...]

Under decades of international sanctions, Iran's commercial passenger aircraft fleet has aged, with air accidents occurring regularly for domestic carriers in recent years, resulting in hundreds of casualties.

by das monde on Wed Jan 8th, 2020 at 12:31:20 PM EST
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Iran's commercial passenger aircraft fleet has aged

It was a Ukrainian plane....

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Wed Jan 8th, 2020 at 12:43:15 PM EST
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Yes, but the same sanctions context.
by das monde on Wed Jan 8th, 2020 at 01:06:11 PM EST
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India Today | Ukrainian flight did not declare emergency before crash
A Ukrainian airliner crashed soon after taking off from Tehran's Imam Khomeini airport on Wednesday, killing all 176 people aboard, Iran's state television and Ukraine's leaders said.

The Boeing 737 belonging to Ukraine International Airlines crashed near the airport and burst into flames. Iranian TV said the crash was due to technical problems but did not elaborate.



Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Wed Jan 8th, 2020 at 04:45:05 PM EST
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by das monde on Wed Jan 8th, 2020 at 04:55:51 PM EST
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Wise decision, Iran most likely will coordinate with France who are quite capable to do the job. No evidence tampering please!

Haven't followed this news item, but by inspection of the crash site, a first analysis could be made. There was a statement that at the moment of a catastrophic event, transmission of all flight data ended. A clue.

Crash analysis UIA B738 at Tehran | Aviatian Herald |


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by Oui on Wed Jan 8th, 2020 at 07:48:01 PM EST
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APsplainin | Deadly crash of a Boeing jet in Iran adds to company's woes
"'But people are going to see "737 Destroyed." How do you quantify that in terms of reputational damage?'"

share price! DOHHHhhhhh.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Thu Jan 9th, 2020 at 12:40:21 AM EST
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Safran jet engines - 50/50 joint venture Snecma and GE

CFM56 jet engine for Boeing 737 and Airbus 320



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by Oui on Thu Jan 9th, 2020 at 09:41:26 AM EST
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PS For Trump et al. ... I'm not blaming the American Eagle, so no need to retaliate.

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by Oui on Thu Jan 9th, 2020 at 09:43:28 AM EST
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Iran says plane tried to turn back, while Ukraine probes missile theory
Some aviation safety experts said the plane's sudden fall as it apparently was engulfed in fire might have been from a bomb or missile.

"Airplanes don't just catch fire and have that fire spread like that in such a short period of time, unless there was an intentional act causing that fire and explosion," Jeffrey Guzzetti, former chief of the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration's accident investigation division said in an interview.

It's at least theoretically possible for a fast-moving cargo fire to take down a plane, said Roger Cox, a former NTSB investigator. A ValuJet plane crashed in Florida in 1996 after pure oxygen caused a raging inferno, he said. But in that case, the plane flew for about 10 minutes, far longer than the Ukrainian jet.

by das monde on Thu Jan 9th, 2020 at 01:33:12 PM EST
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by Cat on Thu Jan 9th, 2020 at 03:43:03 PM EST
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Sanctions on Ukraine? I must have missed that. Is that because they haven't investigated Biden's son?
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Wed Jan 8th, 2020 at 05:46:42 PM EST
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You read the first paragraph of the quote I put up, no? What's up with you, dudes?
by das monde on Wed Jan 8th, 2020 at 05:53:54 PM EST
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Yes, but the second paragraph has nothing to do with the first one.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Wed Jan 8th, 2020 at 05:56:15 PM EST
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sanctions... sanctions...  What else I was staying?
by das monde on Wed Jan 8th, 2020 at 05:58:23 PM EST
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It's A TRAP!

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by Cat on Wed Jan 8th, 2020 at 07:21:55 PM EST
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by Cat on Wed Jan 8th, 2020 at 07:22:52 PM EST
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by Cat on Wed Jan 8th, 2020 at 07:25:13 PM EST
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Both Iran and Ukraine ruled out terror as a possible cause .... as the hours passed .... this has been revised terror -- has not been mentioned. ✈️ 😎

* Ukraine not ruling out terror as cause of deadly crash

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by Oui on Wed Jan 8th, 2020 at 02:47:30 PM EST
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Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Oleksiy Danilov has said that two passengers did not board UIA's Boeing 737 plane, which crashed in Tehran on Jan. 8

The crew and passenger list

by das monde on Wed Jan 8th, 2020 at 04:00:57 PM EST
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by Oui on Wed Jan 8th, 2020 at 03:08:10 PM EST
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Does anyone know about this organization? Affiliation? Funding?

Selling land is not our national idea, it was born in Soros Foundation, - MP Viktor Medvedchuk

Selling land is not our national idea; it was born in the Soros Foundation as a result of external management introduced by Washington. MP Viktor Medvedchuk, the Chairman of the Political Council of the Opposition Platform - For Life Party, said that during his interview with 112 Ukraine, NewsOne, ZiK and Inter TV channels.

"Is this our national idea - land sale? Was it born here, in our bowels? No, no. It could have been born in the Soros Foundation, it could have been born as a result of external administration introduced by Washington, that is, some American international financial structures. It could have been born in the shape. And the shape is the land market," he said.

"Will it bring benefits for the country, the people, for the replenishment of country's budget? And who said it would bring us? We'd love to know, but we don't know what it will bring.

US, Ukraine alone oppose Russian UN vote condemning honors to Nazis | JTA |

I read some international news articles and it wasn't clear with whom I was dealing ...

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by Oui on Thu Jan 9th, 2020 at 01:49:43 PM EST
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Last summer:

112 Ukraine TV channel cancels Oliver Stone's "Revealing Ukraine" documentary on the recommendation of the International Editorial Board

On July 13, right-wing organizations gathered a rally outside the building of the 112 Ukraine TV channel in order to block its work in all possible ways. The reason is the channel's planned broadcast of Oliver Stone's "Revealing Ukraine". Some employees of "112 Ukraine" have already received messages with threats. On the night of July 13, the building of the TV channel was fired from an unidentified weapon (perhaps a grenade launcher).

The International Editorial Board recommended the management of the 112 Ukraine TV channel to give up the plans to broadcast the "Revealing Ukraine." Taking into account these recommendations and the inability to fully protect the rights of journalists in the event of sanctions against the TV channel, the team of the 112 Ukraine TV channel decided to cancel the film screening.

Viktor Medvedchuk is pro-Russian and opposes Ukraine's membership in EU. Putin is the godfather of his daughter (born in 2004).

by das monde on Thu Jan 9th, 2020 at 02:11:52 PM EST
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by das monde on Thu Jan 9th, 2020 at 02:42:07 PM EST
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Old Fox, still in the news?

Rinat Akhmetov

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by Oui on Thu Jan 9th, 2020 at 03:11:22 PM EST
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* Emirati minister tells of clear Iran 'escalation' but does not foresee war | The National UAE |

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by Oui on Wed Jan 8th, 2020 at 11:56:17 AM EST
Why doesn't he ask her to comment on the Boeing crash in Teheran? She is getting paid to be on their board of directors, after all.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Wed Jan 8th, 2020 at 11:58:42 AM EST
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* EU pledges efforts to save Iran deal despite setbacks: Von der Leyen



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by Oui on Wed Jan 8th, 2020 at 12:47:01 PM EST
Listening to members of Trump's Republican party, I lose all hope for the next decade .... uniess a clear majority of Americans come to their senses.

REGIME CHANGE IN AMERICA! VOTE

When you disagree with our President, you are a traitor!

Trump however is handicapped by poor knowledge of history .... he hides failures behind the US flag of "courage".

Great call Donald! The only collateral damage by Soleimani strike is US policy vs Islamic State in Irag and US troops are not welcome in the region.

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by Oui on Wed Jan 8th, 2020 at 01:26:53 PM EST
Trump campaign seizes on Soleimani killing
"'Republicans are good at killing terrorists and this is a reminder of that,' added Michael Ahrens, communications director of the Republican National Committee.

"The president was expected to amplify those messages on Thursday in Toledo, Ohio, during his first campaign rally since the drone strike last week. Trump's campaign purchased ads on Facebook highlighting the Soleimani killing. "

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Wed Jan 8th, 2020 at 04:49:09 PM EST
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Trump's little speech: "Iran Appears To Be Standing Down"

(Pravda says that WSJ reported that Trump was dissuaded from striking Russian and Iranian targets in Syria in April 2019.)

by das monde on Wed Jan 8th, 2020 at 05:03:58 PM EST
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Dissociative behavior. See how easy it is?

by Cat on Wed Jan 8th, 2020 at 10:13:27 PM EST
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Democrats' contempt for Trump fuels an online cash surge
"ActBlue routed more than $1 billion in campaign contributions to the party's candidates and causes in 2019"

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by Cat on Thu Jan 9th, 2020 at 01:56:26 PM EST
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Dry clean only.
--
*Trump's n dimensional chess mastery has been a running joke through the innerboobs--among cynical likely voters, "drain the swamp" spectators, RINOs--since 6 Nov 2016. Also, Grewal purchased a set for $89.96  + S&H.


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by Cat on Thu Jan 9th, 2020 at 03:27:09 PM EST
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filling the "void" -- also older than dirt

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by Cat on Thu Jan 9th, 2020 at 04:15:58 PM EST
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by Oui on Wed Jan 8th, 2020 at 01:34:52 PM EST
Individual EU nations still played hard ball with air of animosity towards Iran -- this wiil always be a dead end, or a catastrophy!



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by Oui on Wed Jan 8th, 2020 at 02:55:36 PM EST
by generic on Wed Jan 8th, 2020 at 06:25:20 PM EST
by Cat on Thu Jan 9th, 2020 at 06:49:12 PM EST
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by generic on Thu Jan 9th, 2020 at 01:05:18 PM EST
Social media is full of lies, and the Iran attacks show how dangerous they've become
"The bottom line: Anyone with a social media account can mislead - and people in power can do it on a grand scale."

< pick teeth, suck vigorously >

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by Cat on Thu Jan 9th, 2020 at 03:50:32 PM EST
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Call between Trump and Netanyahu today ... more trouble to come. Both men have been accused and are awaiting indictment or trial.

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by Oui on Fri Jan 10th, 2020 at 05:05:47 AM EST

Israel and US will handle the Iranian challenge in their own ways

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11 US troops injured in Iran missile strikes on Iraqi bases: report, 16 Jan
Defense One reported Thursday that the U.S. service members [al-Asad air base] were airlifted to Kuwait and Germany where they received treatment for traumatic brain injuries and underwent further tests.
Still, several news organizations soon reported from Al-Asad that U.S. troops had been alerted to the attack hours in advance, and told to head for bunkers 15 minutes before the missiles began to strike. Many U.S. troops, however, manned exposed positions, including at least one group of drone operators who stayed in an above-ground building to get their drones aloft and avoid ground damage. The leader of an Army drone team told NPR that he was "knocked off his feet by the blast." Others told the New York Times that missiles damaged the building they were in.
The Trump administration previously had stated that no U.S. or Iraqi casualties were reported after the attacks, which occurred days [7/8 Jan?] after a U.S. airstrike killed Gen. Qassem Soleimani [2/3 Jan?], head of Iran's Quds forces, outside of Baghdad International Airport.
Fog of war, rumors, and just plain bullshit
by Cat on Fri Jan 17th, 2020 at 03:56:31 AM EST
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CIA partner in rendition, torture, imprisonment of battle field fighters in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Albania and the Kosovo Liberation Army
The Rendition Project: Khaled el-Masri

A leading bootcamp for jihadist fighters for the Syrian proxy war against president Bashar al Assad

Camp Bondsteel, Secret Prisons in Kosovo
Camp Bondsteel and an Independent Kosovo

Clintons' Support for Muslims In Bosnia and Kosovo

    The U.S. under President Bill Clinton allowed clandestine arms transport into Bosnia in contravention of U.N. Resolution of an Imposed Arms Embargo. The U.S. State Department accepted funds, arms and support from Saudi Arabia and Turkey. Result was a first Al Qaeda presence inside Europe.

Iran lashes out against Albania after Soleimani killing | DW |

Albania has become caught up in the escalating conflict between the US and Iran. Indeed, leaders in the capital, Tirana, welcomed Soleimani's assassination; they immediately expelled two Iranian diplomats, reportedly for engaging in activities deemed unacceptable for diplomats.

The US and Albania reached a humanitarian agreement and in 2013, thousands of MEK members were resettled to the Balkan country. Indeed, Albanian Prime Minister Edi Rama said following Khamenei's threats the resettlement resulted from his country's "unwavering alliance" with the US.

Rama concedes that taking in the MEK members poses a risk for Albania. Yet he said it was a risk that "also honors and keeps alive the Albanian tradition" -- by which he means the country's previous role in protecting Jews from the Nazis during World War II. Albania deported not one single Jew to Nazi Germany.

How Kosovo Was Turned Into Fertile Ground for ISIS | NY Times - May 2016 |
12,000 Iranians have fallen victim to MKO's acts of terror

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by Oui on Wed Jan 22nd, 2020 at 09:20:25 AM EST


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