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LQD - Scottish Independence

by ATinNM Tue Jan 26th, 2021 at 02:20:50 AM EST

This is very interesting.  Never expected to read this in a normally rather staid business website.

Scotland is heading towards independence from the UK thanks to Boris Johnson and Brexit

Scotland is heading towards independence from the UK. That's the inevitable conclusion to be drawn from the latest opinion polls which show a surge in support for Scottish nationalism.

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The combination of anger at Brexit, distrust of Boris Johnson (who has a long record of offending Scots) and the UK government's shambolic handling of the coronavirus pandemic have all conspired to create the perfect environment for the independence movement.

If the Scottish Nationalist Party does take 55 out of 59 Holyrood seats as the polling is telling us and with 20 consecutive polls giving Independence majority support it becomes difficult to see how Independence doesn't happen.


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The SNP has been in power since 2007. They did the unthinkable in 2011 and won an absolute majority in an MMP-variant specifically hacked to prevent that, and they're currently on-track to get an even bigger one in May (having only lost it by a whisker in 2016). Meanwhile, demographics is pushing support for independence even higher (young people want to be independent and in Europe; old people are dying and not changing anyone's mind). I guess even the business press can see that the writing is on the wall, and something is going to change.
by IdiotSavant on Tue Jan 26th, 2021 at 05:13:05 AM EST
Apparently Boris & co are well aware, and ginning up a "charm offensive" [sic] to persuade the Scots. Aye, that'll work...

But more importantly,

key ministers, and Johnson himself, are determined to move the constitutional debate  from the increasingly bitter polarisation between the status quo on the one hand and independence on the other. The new approach involves carving a third way between the two extremes, based on the principle of the UK adding value to the devolved settlement, as well as launching an all-UK strategy that could involve new and wider devolution and a more federal structure to the UK's constitutional arrangements, potentially extending to reform of the House of Lords.

What could possibly go wrong?
Let me count the ways...

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by eurogreen on Tue Jan 26th, 2021 at 08:21:05 AM EST
Is it to be assumed that the current Anglo-Scottish border would be the border of the independent country? Why so, if the plan is to unwind 300+ years of history?
by asdf on Thu Jan 28th, 2021 at 08:57:49 PM EST
I think its more about trying to shape the next 300 years...


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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Thu Jan 28th, 2021 at 09:28:46 PM EST
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They are being forced down paths they do not want to go.  The most recent example is Brexit.  62% of Scots voted to stay in.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Fri Jan 29th, 2021 at 04:14:12 PM EST
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