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A House Divided - Truce Firebombed

by Oui Thu Apr 8th, 2021 at 07:15:37 AM EST


Stormont Assembly recalled to discuss Belfast violence | Irish Times |

Missed opportunity and wasted time by Tories and Boris Johnson in divorce talks with the European Union.

Since the referendum of 23 June 2016, there were many slogans:

  • "Takeback control"
  • "Get Brexit done"
  • "Global Britain"

But until now, these slogans were never put to the test.
As the "economic" Brexit had not yet taken effect.

In fact, for many people, the real consequences of the referendum are only now starting to sink in.

And it turns out: Brexit really did mean Brexit.

You cannot renounce the obligations of a Member State and of the Single Market;

Leave  behind an  open  market based  on  an ecosystem  of common  rules,  standards and a jurisdiction;

And still maintain the benefits and advantages of the EU and of the Single Market and Customs Union membership.

These new realities, and the concrete problems they pose - from difficulties for UK fishermen to sell their products in the EU to impediments to the mobility of musicians - do not result from EU decisions.

They are the direct, automatic, consequences of the UK's choice to leave the Union, the Single Market and the Customs Union.

You do not have to take  my word for it. Let me quote you one title of a podcast and one finding from a report from the UK:

  • "Drowning in red tape? UK business, trade and Brexit", asked the UK Trade Policy Observatory from the University of Sussex;

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Boris Johnson likes to lie until a problem goes away - but Northern Ireland isn't going anywhere | The Independent |

by Oui on Thu Apr 8th, 2021 at 05:43:50 PM EST

Bobby Storey funeral fall-out: Policing never more 'politicised' says Police Federation chair

by Oui on Thu Apr 8th, 2021 at 07:11:26 PM EST

Few hours later LIVE ...

by Oui on Thu Apr 8th, 2021 at 07:12:14 PM EST
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by Oui on Thu Apr 8th, 2021 at 07:14:57 PM EST
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by Oui on Thu Apr 8th, 2021 at 09:47:49 PM EST
My question - mainly to our Brit brigade, but others take is welcome too - is what is this all about?

I can see a couple of possibilities:

  1. Loyalists militias seeing the writing on the wall for NI within UK have figured they better stoke up violence now, in the hopes of getting a violent conflict that leads to change of trajectory.
  2. MI5 and other UK governemtn agencies seeing the writing on the wall for NI within UK have figured they better stoke up violence now, in the hopes of getting a violent conflict that leads to change of trajectory.
  3. Some real IRA faction doing false flag to stoke up violence to sharpen the contradictions and bringing on the re-unification.
  4. Something different, probably something local that has also to do with Covid restrictions and Covid+Brexit poverty that then gets interpreted within a unionist vs nationalist framework.

My guess would be 1 or 4, then 2, and last 3 as a really unlikely candidate.
by fjallstrom on Fri Apr 9th, 2021 at 10:45:02 AM EST
Indeed a combination of 1 and 4.

Powder keg was always present ... the barrier between Falls Rd and Shankill Rd or the "Peace Line" was a symbol of permanent division ... the Loyalists of NI felt left behind by Whitehall during the years of the EU. Ireland did quite well and with the utter poor result of the Brexit deal, the border in the Irish Sea broke the camel's back.

In recent months, the DUP leadership framed the NI Protocol as detrimental for the future of Northern Ireland. This lit the fuse ... it was a matter of time before the fireworks started. The Loyalists viewed a dim future, the Nationalists saw a future of a United Ireland and could let the poor Brexit deal play out in their favor. IMHO

Why Belfast residents want to keep their peace walls | Irish Times |

    "As the deluge subsides and the waters fall short, we see the dreary steeples of Fermanagh and Tyrone emerging once again. The integrity of their quarrel is one of the few institutions that have been unaltered in the cataclysm which has swept the world."
    (Words of Winston Churchill, repeated 😉 by his Apprentice PM Boris Johnson on Xmas Eve 98 years later)
by Oui on Fri Apr 9th, 2021 at 12:03:21 PM EST
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In my untutored view, it appears to be option 5. Young hoodlums looking for an excuse to cause trouble use border as an excuse for perpetuating acts of street violence.

If the violence were politically motivated, there would be some rudimentary logical thought process behind it, but in this case, who are they "protesting" against? The Republic, that wanted to stay in the EU? The Brexit-supporting NI politicians? Great Britain, that was pursuing and negotiating the Brexit agreement?

It will be interesting to see how this plays out for the DUP.

by asdf on Fri Apr 9th, 2021 at 07:17:05 PM EST
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Prince Philip's 73-year association with Northern Ireland

The Mountbatten family is a British dynasty originating as a cadet branch of the German princely Battenberg family. The name was adopted on July 14th 1917.

Belfast riots: Calls for planned protests to be cancelled in wake of Prince Philip's death.

by Oui on Fri Apr 9th, 2021 at 06:49:13 PM EST
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by Oui on Tue May 4th, 2021 at 08:19:38 PM EST
First Jersey fishing licences issued to French boats | BBC News - May 1, 2021 |

The Trade and Cooperation Agreement (TCA), approved by the States Assembly on 23 April, required Jersey to issue licences to qualifying vessels.

An interim amnesty arrangement was agreed in January, allowing French boats over 12m (39ft) long to continue to fish while the system was set up.

That amnesty ended on Friday, with all boats now required to have approval to operate in the area.

French fishermen are threatening to blockade Jersey's port and stop supplies being delivered to the Island.

The threats follows the issuing of post-Brexit fishing licences to Norman and Breton vessels last week, which representatives from the Normandy and La Manche regions claim had restrictions attached which had not been discussed with them.

In addition to the threats, French officials have said they will be closing their offices in the Channel Islands and stopping imports of Jersey products into France.

(Source: Jersey Evening Post)

by Oui on Thu May 6th, 2021 at 02:39:44 PM EST
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