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Xi - Joe Launch a New Communication Probe

by Oui Thu Nov 16th, 2023 at 10:09:54 AM EST

Frontpaged with minor edit - Frank Schnittger - a key issue for the modern world

Xi, Biden talk on strategic issues critical to China-U.S. relations, world | Xinhua News |

Chinese President Xi Jinping and U.S. President Joe Biden on Wednesday had a candid and in-depth exchange of views on strategic and overarching issues critical to the direction of China-U.S. relations and on major issues affecting world peace and development.

The meeting was held at Filoli Estate, a country house approximately 40 km south of San Francisco, California. Biden warmly received Xi when he arrived at Filoli Estate.

Noting that the world today is undergoing profound changes unseen in a century, Xi said there are two options for China and the United States -- one is to enhance solidarity and cooperation, join hands to meet global challenges and promote global security and prosperity; and the other is to cling to the zero-sum mentality, provoke rivalry and confrontation, and drive the world toward turmoil and division.

The two choices point to two different directions that will decide the future of humanity and Planet Earth, he said, adding that the China-U.S. relationship, which is the world's most important bilateral relationship, should be perceived and envisioned in this broad context.

For China and the United States, turning their back on each other is not an option, Xi noted, stressing it is unrealistic for one side to remodel the other, and conflict and confrontation has unbearable consequences for both sides.

Xi elaborated on the essential features of Chinese modernization and its significance, China's development prospects, and its strategic intention, pointing out that China's development is driven by its inherent logic and dynamics.

Noting China is promoting the great rejuvenation of the Chinese nation on all fronts through Chinese modernization, Xi stressed that the country will not take the old path of colonization and plundering, or the wrong path of seeking hegemony with growing strength, saying it does not export its ideology, nor have a plan to surpass or unseat the United States. Likewise, the United States should not scheme to suppress and contain China, he added.

The Chinese president pointed out that mutual respect, peaceful coexistence and win-win cooperation are the lessons learned from 50 years of China-U.S. relations and the conflicts between major countries in history, which should be the direction of joint efforts between the two countries.

In San Francisco, China and the United States should assume a new vision and build together five pillars for China-U.S. relations, he noted, pointing out the two countries should jointly develop a right perception.

China is consistently committed to having a stable, healthy and sustainable relationship with the United States, and China has interests that must be safeguarded, principles that must be upheld, and red lines that must not be crossed, Xi said, expressing hope that the two countries could be partners that respect each other and coexist in peace.

China and the United States should manage disagreements effectively, Xi said. Disagreements should not be a chasm that keeps the two countries apart, he stressed, adding that instead, the two sides should look for ways to build bridges to help them walk toward each other.

It is important that they appreciate each other's principles and red lines, and refrain from flip-flopping, being provocative, and crossing the lines, said the Chinese president.

They should have more communication, more dialogues and more consultations, and calmly handle their differences as well as accidents, Xi added.


China and the United States should lead by example, step up coordination and cooperation on international and regional issues, and provide more public goods for the world, he said.

The two sides should keep their initiatives open to each other, or coordinate and connect them for synergy, to benefit the world, Xi added.

Meanwhile, the Chinese president urged China and the United States to jointly promote people-to-people exchanges. The two sides should increase flights, advance tourism cooperation, expand subnational exchanges, strengthen educational cooperation and cooperation on affairs related to the disabled, reduce negative factors that hinder people-to-people exchanges, and encourage and support greater interactions and communication between their people, so as to consolidate the foundation for the healthy development of China-U.S. relations, Xi said.

Xi also elaborated on China's principled position on the Taiwan question. He pointed out that the Taiwan question remains the most important and most sensitive issue in China-U.S. relations. China takes seriously the positive statements made by the United States in the Bali meeting, he said, adding that the U.S. side should take real actions to honor its commitment of not supporting "Taiwan independence," stop arming Taiwan, and support China's peaceful reunification. China will realize reunification, and this is unstoppable, Xi stressed.

Xi pointed out that U.S. actions against China regarding export control, investment screening and unilateral sanctions seriously undermine China's legitimate interests. Noting that China's development is driven by innovation, he held that stifling China's technological progress is nothing but a move to contain China's high-quality development and deprive the Chinese people of their right to development.

China's development and growth, driven by its own inherent logic, will not be stopped by external forces, Xi continued, saying that he hoped the U.S. side to take China's concerns seriously and adopt tangible steps to lift its unilateral sanctions, so as to provide an equal, fair and nondiscriminatory environment for Chinese businesses.

Sign of Better Relations: Pandas

Pandas returning to the U.S. | CNBC |

Regarding earlier conversations with Biden, Xi said "we agreed to make the cooperation list longer and the pie of cooperation bigger."

Xi said China is ready to invite 50,000 young Americans to study in the Asian country over the next five years.

He also said China would send its giant pandas to the San Diego Zoo. He did not specify a time.

Xi says U.S. and China can only be adversaries or partners, with no middle ground | CNBC |

The U.S. and China have to choose between being adversaries or partners, Chinese President Xi Jinping told American business executives late Wednesday.
His remarks contrast with the Biden administration's approach of pursuing strategic competition with Beijing -- restricting exports of advanced U.S. tech to China, while looking for areas of cooperation.

Xi was speaking at a dinner in San Francisco following his meeting with U.S. President Joe Biden a few hours earlier, on the sidelines of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation conference.

Multilateralism is Out, Bilateral Ties Are In

The High Geopolitical Costs of U.S. Economic Policies
Biden's economic plans risk alienating the Global South when the United States needs them most | CFR |

Biden's economic plans risk alienating the Global South when the United States needs them most.

U.S. President Joe Biden's modern industrial and innovation strategy helped accelerate economic growth in the first half of 2023. As National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan detailed in May, Biden's economic policies are based on the principles of a "new Washington consensus," which aims to rebuild the middle class, mitigate climate change, lessen inequality, and strengthen supply-chain resilience. It also lays the foundation for responding economically to the challenge posed by China.

Although the Biden administration's goals are admirable and worthy, the methods they are using to achieve them, combined with other recent U.S. economic policies, will have high geopolitical costs at a time when the Global South is growing in influence.

Over the past seven years, the United States has paralyzed the dispute settlement system of the World Trade Organization (WTO), levied billions of dollars of tariffs, and declared imports a national security threat. The Biden administration's approach follows that trend by practicing what Adam Posen, president of the Peterson Institute for International Economics, calls zero-sum economics, proliferating export controls on computer chips and increasing subsidies and local-content rules.

End of the Trump era 1.0

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  • Old Strategy of Containment In a New Cold War | 29 Jan. 2022 |

      'Encirclement' and 'containment' effectively have become America's default foreign policy - Alastair Crooke
  • All roads lead through Beijing 🇨🇳 ...

    China-US ties need a new guiding strategic framework in competition | OpEd by Global Times |

    The 30th APEC Economic Leaders' Meeting is being held in San Francisco, US, and will last until November 17. The meeting between Chinese President Xi Jinping and US President Joe Biden on the sidelines will grab much attention. Sourabh Gupta (Gupta), a senior fellow at the Washington-based Institute for China-America Studies, told Global Times (GT) reporter Qian Jiayin that this meeting is an opportunity for the two leaders to commit to stabilizing ties. The China-US relationship need a new guiding strategic framework to construct a durable architecture of candid but constructive coexistence in this "new normal" era of the China-US strategic competition.

    GT: You referred to the upcoming meeting between Chinese and American heads of state during the APEC meeting in San Francisco as a "window of opportunity." What opportunities do you think this APEC meeting will bring for both China and the US?

    Gupta: The "window of opportunity" that I refer to is the opportunity for the two leaders to commit to stabilizing ties. At the G20 Bali meeting last November, lines of communication were reestablished and working groups formed across a range of issue areas. Looking ahead, the most important take away from the San Francisco meeting could be the further consolidation of ties and the ability to troubleshoot on short notice any major irritant that might arise in 2024, just as the US enters a raucous election season. If the Republicans carry the White House in November 2024, all this progress can dissipate. But on the other hand, if Biden is reelected, the consensus that was consolidated in Bali and the progress that is made in San Francisco might provide a useful jumping-off point in the mid-2020s for Beijing and Washington to construct a durable architecture of candid but constructive coexistence in this "new normal" era of the China-US strategic competition.

    GT: Despite China repeatedly stating that it has no intention to challenge or displace the US, the Biden administration's China policy has consistently viewed China as its biggest competitor, from "decoupling"; and "small yard, high fence"; to "de-risk." Will the series of visits by US officials and the San Francisco summit have an impact on US policy toward China?

    Gupta: The Chinese side has indeed sought to provide assurances to the American side that it has no intention to challenge or replace the US in Asia and the world. China does not seek to change the existing international order or interfere in the US' internal affairs. In fairness, Biden has reiterated reassurances too: that the United States does not seek a new cold war; it does not seek to change China's system; the revitalization of its alliances is not directed at China; it does not support "Taiwan independence"; and it does not seek conflict with China. The fundamental problem here is that the two sides just do not believe each other. It is an unfortunate fact, furthermore, that from a structural standpoint, the economic rise of China is no longer seen as an opportunity in Washington, but as an outright threat. In this atmosphere, my fear is that the size of the decoupling-related "yard" will keep on growing even as the "fence" remains just as high.

    Earlier writings by Cat ...

    Ruble and Yuan

    The presidents and delegations from China and the Russian Federation met in Moscow to agree. To what? one may yet wonder, given that G7 censors condemn the matter rather than disclose it. Which is a simple feat. For the Kremlin would apper to be the sole publisher of complete communiqués but for AfterShock.news duplication of documents. "Let's start from the end" (the economy, stupid), the culmination of means and motive, which definitively belie occidental fixation on Ukraine anathema and invidious sanctions against the rest.

    Across the globe crisis are in stalemate positions as a power clash has not led to solutions or peace. As the planet burns ...

    by Oui (Oui) on Thu Nov 16th, 2023 at 09:34:15 PM EST
    by Oui (Oui) on Thu Nov 16th, 2023 at 09:35:06 PM EST
    SIDESHOW November 2023 APEC mania ...

    The U.S.-PRC Leaders Summit has entered the room, 10 Nov.

    Xi Jinping to Travel to the U.S. for China-U.S. Summit and the 30th APEC Economic Leaders' Meeting, 10 Nov

      Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Hua Chunying announces: At the invitation of U.S. President Joe Biden, President Xi Jinping will be in San Francisco from November 14 to 17 for a China-U.S. summit meeting and the 30th APEC Economic Leaders' Meeting.

    Fun Fact: History of China State Visits to the White House ...


    2017   Trump: State Visit to China
2022   Biden: ...BALI sideline!...
    2023   Biden: APEC meeting San Francisco

    Follow-up CGTN:

    Live: Special coverage of the APEC Economic Leaders' Retreat in San Francisco, U.S.

    'Sapere aude'

    by Oui (Oui) on Mon Nov 20th, 2023 at 08:09:49 AM EST
    how convenient for the Atlantic Council—a "backyard" pawn adjacent to Argentina!

    U.S. President Joe Biden formally transferred the chair of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) to Peruvian President Dina Boluarte at the 30th APEC Economic Leaders' Meeting on Friday local time in San Francisco, the U.S.
    archive gobierna de emergencia

    Argentina election: What's next after Javier Milei's victory?, 20 Nov BRICS free rider

    ...Milei won Argentina's election following an anti-establishment campaign that analysts said was similar to that of former US President Donald Trump. Speaking after a resounding election victory, he vowed "a limited government, respect for private property and free trade. The model of decadence has come to an end. There is no way back"....
    by Cat on Mon Nov 20th, 2023 at 12:43:30 PM EST
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    Argentina's black market peso rate tops 1,000 per dollar, 10 Oct
    Finance Secretary Eduardo Setti downplayed the peso's sell-off in the black market Tuesday, noting the illegal rate often trails other parallel rates instead of being out in front.

    "It's evident there's just four guys operating illegally to create fear and uncertainty about people's savings," Setti posted on the platform X, formerly known as Twitter.

    Official inflation data will be published Thursday with economists surveyed by Bloomberg forecasting an annual rate of 135%, which would be the fastest since Argentina exited hyperinflation in the early 1990s. On Monday, Milei openly recommended Argentines should stop saving in pesos, remarks that drew criticism from across political and financial spectrum for stoking fears.

    Milei's victory puts the peso's future in doubt, 19 Nov
    ...Argentina has one of the world's highest inflation rates; data released last week showed that prices rose 142% year-over-year. Milei's proposal to switch Argentina's currency from the peso to the US dollar rests on the argument that the dollar is stronger than the peso and, unlike the peso, cannot be printed at will....
    Milei says could take two years to tame Argentina's high inflation, 20 Nov
    "The empirical evidence for the Argentine case says that if you cut monetary emission today, it takes between 18 and 24 months to destroy (inflation)," he said.
    Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Mao Ning's Regular Press Conference on November 20, 2023
    RIA Novosti: Another question on Argentina. Diana Mondino, who was nominated as foreign minister candidate after Argentina's presidential election, told RIA Novosti that Argentina would not join BRICS. What is China's comment?
    Mao Ning: I am not aware of what you mentioned. BRICS is an important platform for stronger solidarity and cooperation among emerging markets and developing countries to uphold common interest. It is an open platform. We welcome all countries that are interested to become a member of the BRICS family.
    Felix "pari passu" Salmon: Argentina elects a new anarcho-capitalist disruptor, 20 Nov
    Rather than inveigh against foreign vultures, for instance, Milei has vowed to pay Argentina's debts and generate 200% returns for bondholders.
    archive August 2023 bloomberg mania, President Lula, Argentina uses yuan
    by Cat on Mon Nov 20th, 2023 at 05:43:43 PM EST
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    Axel | Milei's win in Argentina hits hopes for EU's Latin America trade deal, 20 Nov lolwut deal
    The result stunned many in Brussels who fear that Milei's victory spells further trouble for already-difficult talks on a landmark trade agreement between the EU and Mercosur that has been two decades in the making. Among the many inflammatory statements he made during his campaign, Milei has threatened to quit Mercosur—which groups Brazil, Uruguay, and Paraguay with Argentina. The former tantric sex coach, who has no government experience, called Mercosur a "phenomenal failure" and described it as a "customs union of poor quality that creates trade distortions and hurts its members."
    EU foreign affairs chief Josep Borrell said the incoming government in Argentina "can count on the EU to further strengthen our partnership to deliver positive results for our societies, including by finalizing negotiations as soon as possible on the EU-Mercosur Association Agreement."

    On critical raw materials, Milei may also abandon the ambitions of earlier governments to build up domestic supply chains -- above all for the lithium used in electric vehicle batteries -- rather than extract and export the materials directly, chiefly to China.

    "Don't pick the winners. Let the batteries be made wherever people want to make them," he has said.

    archive Germany's New Colonialism In Support NWO, EUROPE foreign policy, smirking row over
    by Cat on Mon Nov 20th, 2023 at 09:42:48 PM EST
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    Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Mao Ning's Regular Press Conference on November 21, 2023
    China Review News: RIA Novosti reported that during an interview on November 20, Diana Mondino, Senior Adviser of Argentina's President-elect Javier Milei, said cooperation with the Chinese government will be stopped when asked if she would support and encourage trade with China. What's your comments on that?
    Mao Ning: Based on what I have read, your description of her statement is somewhat different from the interview* published on the RIA Novosti website. Mondino said in the interview that some in the world misread President-elect Milei's foreign policy. No countries could step out of diplomatic relations and still be able to engage in economic trade and cooperation. It would be a huge foreign policy mistake for Argentina to cut ties with major countries like China or Brazil. China is Argentina's important trading partner. The newly elected Argentine government values its relations with China, especially the business ties between the two countries.

    As I stressed yesterday from this podium, the bilateral relations between China and Argentina have shown sound momentum of growth. China is Argentina's second largest trading partner and the largest export market of agricultural products. The economic complementarity between our two countries means there is great potential for cooperation. China stands ready to work with Argentina to keep our relations on a steady course forward.

    * "the interview" is a phantom, AFAICT. The phantom circulated yella press all day yesterday and today. I took another turn at RIA searching for it today. Nothing of the kind exists in the two (2) results returned.

    I even subjected myself to a four-month-old Wilson Center-Mondino interview to detect motives which would portend Milei's exit. I suppose, one could construe from their ressentiment that plans to torch every vestige of state "authoritarianism" necessarily begins with trade tainted by Israel and US adversaries, if one squinted and overlooked partisan barriers. I also suppose, one could construe from Mao's vehemence that either BRICS leaders are better informed than RIA by Argentina's participation at today's extraordinary meeting or by experience with G7 agitprop disposed as "expansion" opposition. At the end of the day, RIA scrubbed the offending grist from its mill.

    by Cat on Wed Nov 22nd, 2023 at 04:05:51 AM EST
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    "Leaders of the invited BRICS Members" means the new cohort AE, SA, EG, ET, IR, and possible but unlikely attendance by AR's departing administration. I've yet to locate an official or unofficial AR statement acknowledging the invitation, much less joint communique.

    By contrast Brasil's press service places UN "credibility" and reform near the center of BRICS coalition. Diante de "catástrofe humanitária" no Oriente Médio, Lula cobra trégua determinada por resolução da ONU, while Lula's personal message arranges government priorities around that.

    Discurso do presidente da República, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, na Cúpula Virtual Extraordinária do BRICS, 21 Nov

    Agradeço ao presidente Ramaphosa pela iniciativa de convocar esta reunião extraordinária para tratar da situação emergencial em Gaza.

    Quero saudar a presença dos representantes dos países convidados a integrar o BRICS: Arábia Saudita, Argentina, Egito, Etiópia, Emirados Árabes Unidos, e Irã.

    Desde o início do atual conflito entre Israel e Palestina, tive a oportunidade de conversar bilateralmente com praticamente todos os líderes aqui reunidos.

    (The machine translation to EN is amusing. The speech of the president of the Republic, Luiz Inácio "Lula" da Silva, the future of Virtual and Extraordinary in the BRICS countries)
    by Cat on Wed Nov 22nd, 2023 at 02:03:35 AM EST
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    The Dragon and the Bear In Africa: Stress-testing the Chinese-Russian Relations | FRPI |<

    This report is based on a chapter of my forthcoming book on the relationship between China and Russia. For the US, this is arguably the most important bilateral relationship in the world today. A robust, resilient partnership between Beijing and Moscow has the potential to remake world order. It would usher in an era of international relations based on power and polarity, eroding the role of international law and institutions, and undermining the sovereignty and agency of smaller states. This world order would represent a serious threat to US interests, as currently defined. On the other hand, transactional, "thin" ties between China and Russia allow the US some breathing space. Instead of a revisionist authoritarian alliance, the US would confront two states that represent different types of challenges. In this case, Washington could deal with the acute, militarized threat of Russia in the near term, while remaining postured to confront the "pacing" threat of China--the only potential peer competitor to the US--over the longer term.

    The academic and policy worlds have been seized with the China-Russia relationship for almost two decades. Policy debates revolve around how to confront the two, with some arguing that the current focus on reversing Russia's invasion of Ukraine puts the US at risk of being unprepared for the threat China represents. Others argue that Russia is not merely a disruptive power but represents a profound and immediate danger to US interests. Competition for resources often lurks in the background of this debate: US government organizations focused on Europe tend to argue for focusing on Russia first; those with an Indo-Pacific focus tend to argue that China should be the focus. What this debate often fails to consider is the nature of their relationship and its impact on US policy options. The scholarly debate fills this gap by focusing directly on the nature of the relationship: one camp defines it as a strategic partnership and the other defines it as an "axis of convenience." Often missing from scholarly analysis, though, is an analysis of the implications for US policy. In other words, scholars often argue forcefully for one of these characterizations of the China-Russia relationship but then fail to advise what the US should do in response. Instead, their analysis focuses on the implications of the relationship for theoretical approaches to international relations.

    Unfortunately the miscalculations in American foreign policy are more profound than its successes. Not solving the unrest in the Middle East for decades may be a breaking point in relations East-West and North to the Global South. The self declared  "Civilization" to the outsiders or Barbarians.

    'Sapere aude'

    by Oui (Oui) on Mon Nov 20th, 2023 at 11:23:20 AM EST
    < wipes tears >

    Still listening... to that ol' PANDEMIC LOCKDOWN debrief...

    drought flood drought and flood ... HOLD THE PHONE: Living Lab 'Arms Race': USA v CHINA 2018

    Waiting for Mr Moore to plow "existential risks" into predicting either CN-RU State Visit, China's all-purpose conflict position paper, or this APEC prequel, "breakthrough" Xi-Biden summut Sunnylands Statement on Enhancing Cooperation to Address the Climate Crisis (14.11.23) agreement of "common understandings".

    by Cat on Mon Nov 20th, 2023 at 01:06:46 PM EST
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    1. The United States and China recall, reaffirm, and commit to further the effective and sustained implementation of the April 2021 U.S.-China Joint Statement Addressing the Climate Crisis and the November 2021 U.S.-China Joint Glasgow Declaration on Enhancing Climate Action in the 2020s. 

    Indeed ... the United States never imagined a Republican President running the country or even a Reality Showman sitting in the White House ... the Apprentice.

    U.S.-China Joint Announcement on Climate Change
    Beijing, China, 12 November 2014

    1.  The United States of America and the People's Republic of China have a critical role to play in combating global climate change, one of the greatest threats facing humanity. The seriousness of the challenge calls upon the two sides to work constructively together for the common good.

    2.  To this end, President Barack Obama and President Xi Jinping reaffirmed the importance of strengthening bilateral cooperation on climate change and will work together, and with other countries, to adopt a protocol, another legal instrument or an agreed outcome with legal force under the Convention applicable to all Parties at the United Nations Climate Conference in Paris in 2015. They are committed to reaching an ambitious 2015 agreement that reflects the principle of common but differentiated responsibilities and respective capabilities, in light of different national circumstances.

    US Defence Department says climate change threatens national security - so, how green is your deal? | Jan. 2015 |

    'Sapere aude'

    by Oui (Oui) on Mon Nov 20th, 2023 at 02:34:23 PM EST
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    by Cat on Mon Nov 20th, 2023 at 02:36:40 PM EST
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    Trump's Toxic Announcement on Climate Change | June 2017 |

    U.S. Exits Paris Climate Accord after Trump Stalls Global Warming Action for Four Years | Scientific American - 4 Nov. 2020 |

    State-level efforts and a growing renewables market have mitigated federal emissions policy rollbacks--but Trump's climate impact could be long-lasting

    The U.S.'s position contrasts starkly with that of much of the rest of the world. Other industrialized nations "are crafting detailed policies that are suited to their individual national context and making commitments that are high-ambition and delivered in many different ways with the policies that they will enact," says Rachel Cleetus, policy director of the climate and energy program at the Union of Concerned Scientists.

    'Sapere aude'
    by Oui (Oui) on Mon Nov 20th, 2023 at 02:35:24 PM EST
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    NEWS Climate Change: U.S. Reverses Trumps Withdrawal, Rejoins Paris Agreement | 19 Feb. 2021 |

    We are reengaging the world on all fronts, including at the President's April 22nd Leaders' Climate Summit. And further out, we are very much looking forward to working with the United Kingdom and other nations around the world to make COP26 a success.

    America is Back: Biden's Climate Summit Takes the Lead

    'Sapere aude'

    by Oui (Oui) on Mon Nov 20th, 2023 at 02:36:46 PM EST
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    by Cat on Mon Nov 20th, 2023 at 05:46:30 PM EST
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