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The End of Woke?

by Frank Schnittger Tue Jan 28th, 2025 at 11:12:00 PM EST

Cross posted from  Slugger O'Toole where there are 400 comments and counting.

The core of Woke is about respect for others, and especially others of a different gender, sexuality, identity, race, country of origin, religion, linguistic preference, culture or demographic. Most of us have no problem with that. But there was also a veritable industry supporting the development of those values in academia, non-governmental agencies (see equality agencies), public services, and latterly, in large corporations. A cancel culture developed around this industry whereby anyone who doesn't fully subscribe to this ideology could find themselves losing platforms they previously had access to. It was good marketing to be seen to be on board.


Some people like David McWilliams and historian Niall Ferguson think that Trump's victory is symptomatic of a cultural shift in America whereby there is a wholesale rejection of wokeism. Trump was elected despite an almost universal realisation that he was an amoral, irreligious, narcissistic, misogynistic, racist, elitist, fraudster prone to inciting violence if it suits his agenda. But almost 50% of the electorate didn't care and voted for him anyway. When it came to a choice between Trump and Kamala Harris, a candidate who seemed to embody wokeism for them, they chose Trump.

No doubt there were other factors which helped Trump on his way: The support of high profile and successful billionaire entrepreneurs like Musk, an aging and tired looking Democratic party elite, and a yearning for economic status and success as in the hey day for American military and industrial ascendency. Feeling threatened more by China than Russia, there was a concern to get back to the fundamentals of industrial strength. The problem was not Ukraine, but others stealing America's lunch; not Putin, but Europeans free-riding on US defence spending and the profits of US corporations.

And its not as if any of this is new. The USA has always appeared to worship money above all. Even televangelists measure God's favour in terms of audience ratings, advertising revenues, donations, and the numbers attending their mega churches. For many, personal wealth is a proxy for energy, virality, ambition, ability, and God's favour. Violent expansionism is the very foundation of the USA, so why not Greenland or Canada today?

While Europe worries about gender quotas, the USA has always been about "masculine energy" - self-sufficient pioneers or brave cowboys unencumbered by laws. The women barely featured in popular culture, and if so, largely in supporting roles. You're either an all-American hero or you are nothing. Government is for losers: diversity, equality and inclusion programmes be damned. If you can't make it on your own, it's all your own fault.

It's possible to exaggerate the distinctions, of course. Neither the USA nor Europe are all either one thing or the other. The recently formed Irish government contains just three female cabinet ministers out of fifteen, one less than before. Does that matter if the ministers chosen are the best available? Few criticised the appointment of Michael McGrath as Ireland's EU Commissioner to replace Mairead McGuinness, even though the Government refused Ursula Von Der Leyen's request to nominate both a male and female candidate. The Treaties give Ireland the right to nominate the Commissioner of their choice, subject only to ratification by the EU Parliament. Von Der Leyen doesn't get to choose her own Commissioners.

But the question raised by Trump's election is whether it also marks a cultural turning point in the USA and possibly the wider world under their influence (The USA maintains 750 military bases in 80 countries around the world). Has the priority become to protect "western ascendency" in the world from increasing threats from China and the global south? The BRICs now far exceed the G7 in terms of GDP and reduced indebtedness. Should our traditional concern for Third World development be replaced by fear of Third World takeover? Does western hegemony matter more than climate change? Are white males the new discriminated against, as many like to claim? Is wokeism to blame?

It seems madness to be more concerned about about wokeism than (say) incel culture. Is gender equality, sexual diversity, and the inclusion of minorities really to blame for the relative decline of the West, or just a convenient scapegoat? Would our economic development even have been possible without the greater inclusion of women and minorities in the workforce, including in leadership positions? Is the anti-woke rebellion (if that is what it is) just a temporary over-reaction to some perceived excesses of wokeism and will normal service soon be resumed?

There seems little doubt that the (mostly) still male white elite in the USA felt threatened by the rise of women and minorities to leadership positions, and young white males, whose forebears might have had unencumbered access to good jobs and careers, feel the brunt of increased competition in the labour market from highly qualified and (mostly) non white immigrants. Musk has made no bones about his support for increased immigration visas for (in his view) smarter, more hard working, and cheaper immigrants, and has come up against vehement opposition from the (mostly white) MAGA base who want better job opportunities for "indigenous" -read long established immigrant - Americans.

Much of American business depends on cheap labour from (often undocumented) immigrants who they can fire at will or at their pleasure without problems from unions, the law, or the authorities. Many are in menial jobs with poor pay and conditions most Americans wouldn't want anyway. Many businesses and wealthy families will be severely disrupted if Trump does follow through on his promise to deport millions of immigrants and end programmes by which their status can be regularised.

Closer to home, one of the ironies of Brexit is that it has led to increased immigration (mostly from outside Europe) despite the reduction in EU workers in the UK. People don't always get "what it says on the tin" or on the side of a bus where political marketing of ideas like Brexit or MAGA are concerned. Much of Europe is in demographic decline and simply not producing enough workers to sustain the economy, never mind grow it, without at least some immigration. And who will care for the increasing numbers of retired workers?

So, it remains to be seen whether Trump will follow through on his campaign promises on immigration and represent a turning point in US political culture or is he just a speedbump on the road to greater diversity, equality and inclusion in our societies? Perhaps most people have come to accept concepts like non-discrimination on the basis of race, colour, creed, and religion to such an extent that positive discrimination and government and business programmes to promote diversity, equality and inclusion may no longer be required, or at least, not to the same extent. No doubt there will be diverse views on this!

But I remain sceptical that woke is dead, or that it serves no good purpose. Harnessing the talents of all our people and mitigating disabilities is key to our continued economic and social success in the future. Ireland's workforce has almost trebled since the 1960's and yet unemployment is at historic lows and wages and living standards have never been higher. That is not to say that states like Ireland do not retain the right to decide who they will and will not allow into the country (from outside the EU) either to work or as refugees. The first responsibility of any government is to ensure the basic needs of their own people are met.

The success of the BRICS has not yet spread to many of the smaller countries in Africa where a combination of war, economic under development, political repression, population explosion, and climate change has resulted in a mass exodus of would be immigrants often facilitated by ruthless and rapacious middlemen. Helping to enable their development remains the prime and most important way to prevent the sort of mass exodus that can be destabilising for recipient countries.

Crises like the Ukraine invasion will exacerbate the situation, but all wars come to an end eventually. The costs to Russia of the Ukraine invasion already far exceed any conceivable benefit it could derive from gaining some territory. The European ideal of peace and prosperity for all through greater cooperation and integration of our economies must prevail. Let us not lose faith in our political culture just because there are storms about. Woke is about mutual respect and common sense. All else is negotiable.

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Hell hath no fury like those used to privilege seeing outsiders get in on the act. They immediately become victims and martyrs to outrages that would put centuries of slavery, plunder and genocidal violence to shame. Instead of the respectable and widely read establishment media they are used to inhabiting and feel entitled to, they are reduced to social media and marginal publications. They are no longer paid exhorbatant sums for their "free" speech, which feels like censorship even though no one is stopping them mouthing off in many fora about their many hardships.

They are the beneficiaries of empires and global domination and yet feel no responsibility towards those subjugated to those empires. The Oxbridge Colleges funded by the proceeds of colonial exploitation and slavery are entitled to a clean slate now, and their pronouncements should be treated as authoritative by all and sundry. "The sins of their forebears are visited upon their children onto the third and fourth generations" and they feel very angry about this. How very unfair of the world not to be totally in awe of their genius!

How tiresome of the "wokerati" to keep bringing up historical grievances that are best now forgotten, even if the legacy of discrimination and violence lives on in many families. (The USA -the land of the free - has the largest prison population in the world) How irritating that those not made of "the right stuff" are getting increasing attention and prominence. How awful that "our country" the UK is being challenged and divided by groups with different cultures. How dreadful that the India we plundered and pauperized is now taking over our jobs and our economy.

The USA won the West and two world wars. It invented the internet, social media, e-commerce and AI, and now others are getting into the game. Having done all the hard work for American brands, the east is now using that production expertise to develop brands of their own. What if Europe develops its own social media and shuts out X, Facebook, Google etc al? What if it stops buying US fracked gas and armaments?

It's damned unfair that the US's right to impose governments of their choice on many countries is now being questioned. That Denmark won't just sell Greenland to the USA. That Israel shouldn't be allowed to do what it damn well likes in the Middle East while complaining of antisemitism in the West. That our place at the top of the natural order of things is being challenged by lesser beings and cultures. Karma is a bitch.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Jan 28th, 2025 at 11:14:26 PM EST
The world has been there before. ... 100 years ago ... a tad of fascism ... white supremacy ... manifest destiny ... Goldwater reincarnated ... rightwing extremism ... with Trump and his cabal, you get the whole package ...

The end of "woke" ... campaign ad of 1964 ... undoing the advances under FDR ... the EU's Four Freedoms ... and restoring the time of the Ku Klux Klan from before the Civil Rights movement ... so damn woke isn't it ... so recognizable.



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by Oui (Oui) on Wed Jan 29th, 2025 at 12:45:00 AM EST


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by Oui (Oui) on Wed Jan 29th, 2025 at 03:49:36 PM EST
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by Oui (Oui) on Wed Jan 29th, 2025 at 03:50:58 PM EST
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George Carlin:  "They call it the American Dream because you've got to be asleep to believe it."

The whole routine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-54c0IdxZWc

Solar IS Civil Defense

by gmoke on Fri Jan 31st, 2025 at 10:11:49 PM EST
US actually stands for Unwitting Somnambulists.
by rifek on Sun Feb 2nd, 2025 at 05:46:08 AM EST
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Excellent lively and colorful discussion was aborted after 645 comments.

Reminded me of



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by Oui (Oui) on Sun Feb 2nd, 2025 at 06:08:06 PM EST
What a state ... as the crow flies, south of the Show Me State Ozark hillbillies 😂

From the great state of Arkansas ...

Harris lost the election due to her "wokeness"

Because her interaction with both the media and public was so limited, she also never had to develop anything resembling a coherent political philosophy, being content to merely mimic whatever was fashionable in ultra-woke San Francisco political circles.


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by Oui (Oui) on Sun Feb 2nd, 2025 at 06:13:59 PM EST
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Here's where 'woke' comes from | Arkansas Democrat-Gazette |

Given this origin story, some observers have berated progressives for appropriating a term coined by Black activists. Kelly's 1962 essay in the Times addressed this very subject. Titled "If You're Woke You Dig It," the piece argued that Black people living in a white world needed a way to talk to each other that outsiders would not understand. Each time a word entered the mainstream, he wrote, "the Negro knows that part of his code is being broken."

Kelly's point is powerful, but the etymology of "woke" doesn't quite fit his thesis. Even granting the proposition that a race can "own" a word, a better description of where the term came from would acknowledge that it's been traded back and forth.

To begin with, Garvey isn't relevant. True, the phrase appears in the aforementioned 1923 volume, but there's no evidence that "woke" was associated with him by the Black public of the day. Small wonder, given that Garvey was merely borrowing a term Black leaders had long ago adopted.

As for Lead Belly, his 1938 usage of "woke" was likely a repurposing of the key line in "Sawmill Moan," a song recorded a decade earlier by the great blues artist Willard "Ramblin'" Thomas:

If I don't go crazy,
I'm sure gonna lose my mind
'Cause I can't sleep for dreamin',
sure can't stay woke for cryin'.

Although on the surface the song laments a lost love, historians have suggested that the lyrics were a veiled protest against the atrocious conditions faced by Black workers in Southern sawmills, where Thomas and other blues artists often performed.

This interpretation makes sense, and not only because blues songs often included hidden meanings representing opposition to cultural norms, particularly norms about race.



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by Oui (Oui) on Sun Feb 2nd, 2025 at 06:57:29 PM EST
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Ramblin' Thomas Sawmill Moan (1928)

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by Oui (Oui) on Sun Feb 2nd, 2025 at 06:58:00 PM EST
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When you don't define "woke" it has a different meaning for many ...

The Boundaries of Intercultural Dialogue in a World 'After Babel' | Tilburg University |

The conclusion will be that, although intercultural dialogue confronts humans with inescapable boundaries, communication with and understanding of the cultural other are nevertheless essential, since humans can only understand themselves through the other.

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by Oui (Oui) on Sun Feb 2nd, 2025 at 09:37:24 PM EST
Wouldn't your article be better served by "The End of DEI" under Trumpism?

Why wokeness has pitched the left into crisis | El País - 11 Mar 2024 |

Criticism is emerging from unexpected quarters over the puritanical aspects of the current wave of political correctness that puts the focus on identity and difference

Woke is not what it used to be. For some years, the term was used to describe those who are sensitive and involved in the struggle against social injustice, especially in U.S. politics, but also in the politics of other countries following suit perhaps to a lesser degree. Woke was a label proudly worn by activists in pursuit of social and climate justice: from Black Lives Matter to the #MeToo movement and the fight against global warming. Woke seemed to advocate a new era of equality and justice.

Now, however, the concept is being turned on its head by a growing anti-woke contingent that, according to the laws of action and reaction, has imbued the term with the kind of contempt that discredits those progressive causes. What began as a kneejerk reaction from the right has now spread to encompass an element of the left that is dissatisfied with woke's current prominence, is concerned by what they consider its excesses, and its lack of universality. Woke is now used as an insult. The growing criticism of the woke from some members of the left is generating tensions, as reflected by authors and philosophers such as Susan Neiman, Umut Özkirimli and Stéphanie Roza, not to mention the exuberance of right-wing critics within the field.

"By subverting the word `woke,' the ultraconservative sector of the U.S. Republican Party managed to turn it into a kind of catch-all to criticize any progressive aspect of the political spectrum, be it education on racism, feminism, identity politics or even books they consider inappropriate," explains journalist and writer Lucía Lijtmaer, author of Ofendiditos. Sobre la criminalización de la protesta (Anagrama, 2019). Today, anti-woke, especially among the U.S. right, could be considered a movement in itself.

Hijacking a positive theme by turning it upside down labeling it as strictly negative. A war of words, or militarizing disinformation, propagandizing politics for decades now.

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by Oui (Oui) on Sun Feb 2nd, 2025 at 09:38:30 PM EST
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Industrialized Disinformation
2020 Global Inventory of Organized Social Media Manipulation | Oxford |

The manipulation of public opinion over social media remains a critical threat to democracy. Over the past four years, we have monitored the global organization of social media manipulation by governments and political parties, and the various private companies and other organizations they work with to spread disinformation.

Our 2020 report highlights the recent trends of computational propaganda across 81 countries and the evolving tools, capacities, strategies, and resources used to manipulate public opinion around the globe.

We have entered the age of manipulation and a future with AI.

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by Oui (Oui) on Sun Feb 2nd, 2025 at 09:39:09 PM EST
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The Psychology of Culture Wars: How the Elite Divide and Manipulate the Masses | Dec. 2024 |

Wokism?

A Grand Strategy to defeat "elitists" Democrats and win elections 😂 🤣

My latest here

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by Oui (Oui) on Tue Feb 4th, 2025 at 09:41:16 PM EST
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Thanks. An excellent article. Machiavelli had already pointed this out five centuries ago. The extremely wealthy (i grandi) by their nature always seek to have more and do so by creating factionalism and division in society. If they are left unchecked their actions will destroy any republic.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Wed Feb 5th, 2025 at 11:36:36 AM EST
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